saving in the middle of the turn

**fleaza** · 07-15-2009, 10:24

when you press the end turn button, you give the enemy a chance to attack you right? because its their turn adn they can attack you with their units. so someone attacks me and the battle prescreen pops up. i decide to save because i might get a ctd. true enough, i got a ctd while loading the battle.

so i reload EB and reload the save game during the middle of the turn. i fight the battle without any CTDs and i make it to the next turn. so now i realise that the script was turned on until i saved the game at that battle prescreen. and when i reloaded the game to play it the script was turned off and i finished a turn without the script on.

will this affect my game in any way?

just ask me if you need clarification

**/Bean\** · 07-15-2009, 10:38

Having the script turned off for a turn or two, even with a few battles in between, won't make too much of a difference, no.

**d'Arthez** · 07-15-2009, 10:42

Yes it will. For one thing, the money script will not run for the remainder of the turn. Same holds for population replenishment scripts. The more factions that need to have their turn, the worse its effect.

Eleutheroi turns are relatively safe on these counts.

In my experience though, it often leads to various script "novelties". According to one character it might be spring, according to another Winter / Summer movement restrictions may apply. This also seems to be true of Autosaves.

In general, the best course of action is to save your game before you hit the end turn button. If you are forced into battle, reloading that save game at another point in time (if you have to leave for work / school / whatever) should result in the same AI behavior.

**/Bean\** · 07-15-2009, 10:47

Sure, it will have consequences. But they aren't huge, and I rarely notice them. But then I do suppose he did say 'any' consequences, so I stand corrected.

I always save my games before ending the turn, but I also save them after each battle I have fought during a turn. Too many times have I won great or difficult victories two or three times a turn, only for the fourth battle to crash EB, forcing me to fight all those battles again. You rarely get the same results or the same AI activity.

**fleaza** · 07-15-2009, 11:15

oh crap thats not good. movement restrictions in the other seasons is definitely not something id like.

is it possible to bring up the script advisor without havin to click on a building?

**Yarema** · 07-15-2009, 13:18

It has some minor consequences, but don't bother.

What I always do is:
1. Save before battle.
2. If a ctd occurs, reload.
3. After the battle, press and hold "o" (it triggers the diplomacy scroll and the advisor to pop up), and quickly activate the script.

To be sure that it works right, you must not press space at any time, otherwise diplomats and armies of other factions will walk quickly and you won't have time to reactivate the script before your turn arrives.

**Macilrille** · 07-15-2009, 21:41

I have sussed that I get CTDs for every 2.3 battles in the Iberian peninsula, I thus do the save in enemy turn trick a lot, and have not noticed any ille effects, there may be some, but if so they are so minor I care not. In the future I will try the "O" way of activating it. That is a smart move.

**Cute Wolf** · 07-16-2009, 08:01

at least I get some "missing time syndrome" when I save at the middle of the turn (eq, summer, and then winter, and then spring... where's the autmn?!? or spring, and then winter....) But that's fine anyway, if u like to see your character dies quicker... and mistimed schedules (I try not to save in the middle of the turns again after knowing that...)

**Chris1959** · 07-16-2009, 09:01

I've often gotten round a persisntent CTD by ending a turn with the script off, switching back on next turn. I never really noticed any major problems and I played all the way to AD14!
One way to reduce battle CTD's is to leave the battle results screen on for at least 30 seconds, I give it a good minute after a crucial heroic victory, it really cuts down on CTD's (This is a RTW not an EB bug!)

**Cute Wolf** · 07-16-2009, 09:05

Phew... luckily I usually ends up drinkin a glass of (beer/cola/lime/water) after each heroic vic... so I rarely get that.....

**Macilrille** · 07-16-2009, 09:09

Originally Posted by Chris1959

I've often gotten round a persisntent CTD by ending a turn with the script off, switching back on next turn. I never really noticed any major problems and I played all the way to AD14!
One way to reduce battle CTD's is to leave the battle results screen on for at least 30 seconds, I give it a good minute after a crucial heroic victory, it really cuts down on CTD's (This is a RTW not an EB bug!)

Well, you are right I think about the Heroic Victory thing. It seems to me that it is often after a Heroic Victory.

Cute, I do not usually play when drunk, so no beer for me after Heroic Victories for they seem to come in groups.

For me (as Roman or Suebi) the CTDs are almost nonexistant in the East, in the west against Carthage and Luso they happen all the time, sometimes after every battle

**Chris1959** · 07-16-2009, 09:23

I used to get the same thing a lot of CTD's against Carthage, now I wait until the music finishes and then a good 20-30 seconds. Now it is a rare occurence, and created to Foot for pointing this out

**Cute Wolf** · 07-16-2009, 09:30

Originally Posted by Macilrille

Cute, I do not usually play when drunk, so no beer for me after Heroic Victories for they seem to come in groups.

nope... just RP ing celebrations..... and u can drunk with cola/lime/water?

BTW, at the topic, I both played with Alex.exe and BI exe (has both launchers)... both are better than RTW, but at ai intelligence, Alex seems to win, while in overall stability, BI is sightly the winner (never got CTD after port to BI because the Hording options...) when played with Alex.... CTD is very very rare, but never got with BI