The Order of the Fleur de Lys

**Cecil XIX** · 08-26-2009, 02:08

A letter arrives from Duc Raymond

By my reading, the fifth clause does not forbid knights from insulting each other. Regardling specific accusations such as thievery, which one can objectively prove or disprove, I would say that one cannot be called a liar if one actually believes what one says. However, making statements that cannot be proven true, and must be automatically assumed false for obvious reasons, is in my opinion a violation of the fifth clause of the oath, which I believe demands more than an absence of lies, but that knights should only make statements of fact that they can personally vouch for. In this regard, accepting Sir Christophe de Perronne's is the least one in Sir Gaeten de Rethels postion can do. I would also suggest adding another clause to the Oath of Chivalry, something along the lines of forbidding members

I hope Prince Louis is not offended by my speaking so generally, but as this issue is of great importance and will have a large impact on the future conduct of the Order, I believe it is best to tackle the issue neutrally, with regard to possible future incidents as well as this one.

Finally, I must take issue with the Prince's statement that any who agree with Sir Gaeten's words cannot fulfill their duty to the Order. This will be true once his highness the Dauphin becomes King, but not before. In fact, the Charter of the Order does not mention the title of Prince specifically.

**econ21** · 08-26-2009, 02:42

Hermant reads his Duc's letter, but then puts it to one side and focuses on a shorter missive from Gaeten. With a sigh, he slowly rises and strikes Gaeten's name from the list of Order members.

**Ramses II CP** · 08-26-2009, 03:05

On hearing of the Duke's comments the Prince issues one brief further statement,

No man will in any way be upbraided for respectfully disagreeing with the Prince's interpretation of the oath. Each man swears the oath as he means it in his heart, but for the common good an agreed upon meaning must be found and upheld. As in all things, God will be the final arbiter.

**econ21** · 08-26-2009, 03:16

Brother knights,

With the resignation of Gaeten de Rethel, the Company is leaderless. Are there any knights on active duty who wish to stand for the post of Captain? Standing now will prevent you standing next session, but with the war, we sorely need leadership.

As he has recently been active in the field, I propose Gaspard take the role of acting Captain until the post will be properly filled.

I will allow 24 hours for nominations and then organise one day of voting.

Yours in arms,

Hermant

**Ignoramus** · 08-26-2009, 03:34

I am willing to assume the role of Captain for the remainder the Seneschal's turn. I am deeply disappointed in Gaeten de Rethel's actions, and would strive to maintain the integrity of the Order.

**Marcus Agrippa** · 08-26-2009, 16:58

I would also be willing to stand for Order captain once more.

**econ21** · 08-26-2009, 20:36

Brother Le Sueur, I will gladly put forward your name for the election. On other matters, Gaspard has called an emergency meeting in private, brother - your voice would be welcome there.

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**Cecil XIX** · 09-24-2009, 03:59

A short, hunched-over monk enters the Order's chambers.

My Lords, I am an assistant to the Royal Librarian. I am come to ask your preference for the record-keeping, where I am keeping a record of the great landowners of the realm.

Unlike the others however, the Orders lands are owned not by one man, but the organization as a whole. Would the Order prefer the records to list the Order itself as the owner of North Flanders, the current steward, or both?