The same concept, discretion, also appealed to SSNeoperestroika. When the first shooter opened up at him with a Garand carbine from across the street, he dropped behind a car and then did a low crawl towards the alley between the Five-and-dime and the taproom. He’d gotten a good look at his shooter – no mask and the hat had flipped off from the recoil of the carbine. But would he have a chance to confront him later?
You see, unfortunately for SSNeo, that alley was really his only means of escape from the first shooter – and easily turned into a trap by the simple expediency of having one shooter step out of the back door to the tappy. Fortunately for SSNeo, nobody did. He was able to make his escape. Tomorrow, he and Chaotix would have words.
I feel like everyone's kind of glossing over this. Does this mean Chaotix attacked SSNeo last night?
You underestimate me if you think it took more than 20 seconds to counter that falsehood.
Four minutes elapsed between the post times, buddy.
Oh and YLC, I think... Joooray will die tonight.
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"Lemur. Even if he's innocent, he's a pain; so kill him." -Ignoramus
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Originally Posted by TosaInu
At times I read back my own posts [...]. It's not always clear at first glance.
LittleGrizzly you claim was in a group of three...
and he was a Don...
and you say it was a "success".
Yes, I told you that and you sent a vig group after the LG the next night because the night writeup was "ambiguous" do I need to quote the pm's where you argued against the things you are arguing for now?
I know who the Mafia are and all the townies. All 7 of you Mafia are under my watch.
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I know who the Mafia are and all the townies. All 7 of you Mafia are under my watch.
Only 7?
"I'm going to die anyway, and therefore have nothing more to do except deliberately annoy Lemur." -Orb, in the chat
"Lemur. Even if he's innocent, he's a pain; so kill him." -Ignoramus
"I'm going to need to collect all of the rants about the guilty lemur, and put them in a pretty box with ponies and pink bows. Then I'm going to sprinkle sparkly magic dust on the box, and kiss it." -Lemur Mafia: Promoting peace and love since June 2006
Originally Posted by TosaInu
At times I read back my own posts [...]. It's not always clear at first glance.
Yes, I told you that and you sent a vig group after the LG the next night because the night writeup was "ambiguous" do I need to quote the pm's where you argued against the things you are arguing for now?
Deftly avoiding the entire point that it cannot be both a successful 3 man group and also involve a Don.
Deftly avoiding the entire point that it cannot be both a successful 3 man group and also involve a Don.
I won't waste my breath; you have no explanation.
Originally Posted by Askthepizzaguy
If so, this might count as a group of *seven*. No wonder you'd get credit for the thing. I don't believe this counts as a group of three. Anytime Haudegen was in a group of three, the target didn't get attacked.
It seems to me Haudegen may have intentionally been trying to get credit for a successful protection in a group of three "to prove himself" when in this instance it quite obviously wasn't a group of three.
This is the explanation you gave yesterday. Step back and reconsider.
Select: Twilightblade as a truce offering. Did not realize until the epic battle that blade was that bad***. Blade if you read this please reply back with an acception of the truce by selecting me.
D11
Ah, let's make sure Ichigo doesn't go down. And let's make sure Pizzaguy doesn't become director. Didn't take much work, because there was a bad lead on Beefy that came from a bad case a long time ago involving Andres, beefy, and Shlin. Perfect time to lynch an innocent for a change.
3rd, Reenk Roink = 3 (Centurion1, Crazed Rabbit, Lord Winter)
4th/5th, Beefy187 = 1 (Sasaki Kojiro)
4th/5th, Moros = 1 (a completely inoffensive name)
D10
Well, looks like someone tried to make himself look innocent, but the rest made sure there was no tie between Crazed Rabbit and Lord Winter, didn't ya? Reenk and Beefy, good picks, too. Here we are seeing that the mafia have to function as a unit, because the whole war between mafia thing isn't cutting the mustard.
D9
Cutting our losses? Again we tried for a tie between CR and Lord Winter, and lookie who was opposed to that idea. Why it's all the mafia. DJG must have had his whole family decimated by now, he died so the rest could live.
D8
Saving Lord Winter again? Look at all the scums who decided Ironside was more trouble than he was worth. Look at how few mafia voted for Lord Winter. And of course, if a bunch of scums decide that it's ok to sacrifice one of their own, it becomes a massive bandwagon. At this point, tied votes are becoming a problem, so you gotta pick... dang those townies.
1st A Very Super Market: 14 (askthepizzaguy, Beefy187, Diana Abnoba, gibsonsg91921, Ironside, Joooray, Kukrikhan, Littlegrizzly, Sasaki Kojiro, slashandburn, Tratorix, White_eyes:D, XehhII, YLC.
3rd a completely inoffensive name: 1 (scottishranger)
3rd scottishranger: 1 (a completely inoffensive name)
D6
Always wise to come down on both sides of the fence. Just wiseguys after all... and with votes on either side, it's possible to break the tie. Assuming someone doesn't come in and make sure the tie holds.
D3
Because GH had already been caught out. Knocking off rival mafia is good at this stage. And breaking the tie would have been pretty scummy. Besides, the town is no big deal. Who is afraid of the big bad town? Kill a rival scumbag.
Spoiler Alert, click show to read:
1st
FactionHeir: 18 (Andres, Askthepizzaguy, Beskar, Chaotix, CountArach, Death is Yonder, DisgruntledGoat, DJGingivtis, GeneralHankerchief, Haudegen, Jolt, LittleGrizzly, Lord Winter, Sigurd, slashandburn, Tincow, Yaropolk, YLC)
D2-
What can you do? It was basically like a detective reveal. Mafia on-board the bandwagon. Don't want to defend a known scumbag. Mafia is hardly united at this point anyway... after all, they are the big threat, not the town, right?
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Now, who has been getting targeted by the mafia all game? HMMMM
Spoiler Alert, click show to read:
Red- attacked by vigilantes
Blue- attacked by mafia
Some names are suspiciously absent. You really think the mafia would leave Sasaki Kojiro alone all game long? he's been attacked by Twilightblade. Whoopdy-doo. The mafia have left certain key players alone all game long. It creates a small problem when trying to hide who is mafia. At the very least, you could attack your fellow mafia once in a while.
Attacked by mafia: Blue
Mafia/Commies/attacked by vigilantes: Red
From this, we might suggest the following: The mafia want Sasaki and Crazed Rabbit to live. The mafia want certain players in blue to die.
Around halfway through the game, the mafia finally started to "get it" that they needed to put aside any sort of rivalry and make sure that they keep key players alive. Ever since then, there's been massive resistance to lynch Crazed Rabbit, Lord Winter, and no one is mentioning Sasaki as a suspect anymore except of course for those of us who remember how he was trying to assemble his own family, and has been instrumental in trying to cover for LittleGrizzly, Lord Winter, Crazed Rabbit, Haudegen, and any number of other scums or potential scums. Sasaki is not putting his full effort into catching the scums, IMO. He's putting it into cutting the mafia's losses. Where's his analysis? Who are his suspects? I remember very early on, Sasaki and several other now-proven-scummy characters really wanted me dead. Sasaki, Chaotix, Crazed Rabbit, Rhyfelwyr, Centurion1, Ironside, and Shinseikhaan while he was actively vigilante killing known suspected townies.
And anytime I make the slightest mistake, oh, yeah, I'm definitely scum and leading everything to ruin, so sayeth the scummiest of the scum. Subtle.
Sasaki, Crazed Rabbit, there's only room in this town for one of us to survive.
Last edited by Askthepizzaguy; 09-21-2009 at 02:39.
I like how I'm suspicious whether I vote for the mafia or not. ATPG, you can't analyze, you simply lock in on someone who's not bowing to your authority and then say their every action makes them guilty.
Like this example:
D8
Saving Lord Winter again? Look at all the scums who decided Ironside was more trouble than he was worth. Look at how few mafia voted for Lord Winter. And of course, if a bunch of scums decide that it's ok to sacrifice one of their own, it becomes a massive bandwagon. At this point, tied votes are becoming a problem, so you gotta pick... dang those townies.
Wow, you mean when Reenk popped up and demand everyone vote for Ironside and nobody vote for Lord Winter?
Or this:
Day 14.
Ah, certainly to spare Crazed Rabbit, you'd be willing to destroy the N5 killer, who is as much a threat to you as the town.
You mean after you posted Xehh's confession in the thread and asked for his lynching?
CR
Ja Mata, Tosa.
The poorest man may in his cottage bid defiance to all the forces of the Crown. It may be frail; its roof may shake; the wind may blow through it; the storm may enter; the rain may enter; but the King of England cannot enter – all his force dares not cross the threshold of the ruined tenement! - William Pitt the Elder
Oh, but of course it wouldn't be suspicious if several attempts at vigilante killing you have failed, and several attempts at lynching you have failed, and you've never been attacked by the mafia.
As for my analysis, where's yours and Sasaki's all game? IMO, decidedly lacking.
DECIDEDLY LACKING? Don't give me that BS. I was hounding the Serial killer for several rounds. You, of course, ignored it because you've never done any analysis; just gathering other's investigations and killing people who don't answer your PMs, or answer them in a way you don't like. If we had listened to me Joe Monks, very likely a townie, would still be alive.
Further, I've been trying to increase the amount of discussion in this thread - which you again and again try to shut down. It seems to me no pro-town role would try to make sure the only posts in the thread are those voting for his declared target.
Also - there were only two attempts on me. The first failed because Reenk didn't send his orders in. The second failed because someone(s?) protected me. Who, I don't know because I never asked to be protected.
And of course the mafia would never attack me - I'm the most suspicious person and your continued focus on me means they get away.
I'm pretty sure the only reason Reenk said I was mafia was for kicks and giggles. Why else would he then not participate in the first vig kill on me, then go on to warn me about the second?
CR
Ja Mata, Tosa.
The poorest man may in his cottage bid defiance to all the forces of the Crown. It may be frail; its roof may shake; the wind may blow through it; the storm may enter; the rain may enter; but the King of England cannot enter – all his force dares not cross the threshold of the ruined tenement! - William Pitt the Elder
CR has so many votes on him at this point, he won't need mine to be killed. If this lynch gets any closer, I'll probably put down a vote.
And I'm amused that everyone and their brother continues to think I am a communist. If I was really a communist, ATPG and his FBI buddies would have killed me off already. I personally think I'm just the scapegoat of the day or something, kind of like Beefy or Pannonian.
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I think the part that tugs me the most about you being guilty is this...."Why not vote:Sasaki if you really are innocent?"
oh sure vote: Sasaki
CR
Ja Mata, Tosa.
The poorest man may in his cottage bid defiance to all the forces of the Crown. It may be frail; its roof may shake; the wind may blow through it; the storm may enter; the rain may enter; but the King of England cannot enter – all his force dares not cross the threshold of the ruined tenement! - William Pitt the Elder
Pizza, I'm more bemused by your ability to say something and then say the exact opposite a few posts or pages later with no apparent recognition of your complete about turn. As for LG, I know the facts of it, and it doesn't look like I'm going to be lynched so I'll let it rest where you let it rest when your ignored my post and decided to attack my record.
You ask for my analysis when every lynch has been detective driven, and point out my voting for other suspects as evidence that I'm not doing independent detective work? But that would indicate just the opposite. And how much have I worked with you privately trying to narrow down the don short list while you were off lynching wise guys?
I'm amused that everyone and their brother continues to think I am a communist. If I was really a communist, ATPG and his FBI buddies would have killed me off already. I personally think I'm just rambling profusely.
Feel free to divulge your motives. I'd like to see if your explanation is as amusing as your fail.
it's the **** that happens while you're waiting for moments that never come
Pizza, I'm more bemused by your ability to say something and then say the exact opposite a few posts or pages later with no apparent recognition of your complete about turn. As for LG, I know the facts of it, and it doesn't look like I'm going to be lynched so I'll let it rest where you let it rest when your ignored my post and decided to attack my record.
You ask for my analysis when every lynch has been detective driven, and point out my voting for other suspects as evidence that I'm not doing independent detective work? But that would indicate just the opposite. And how much have I worked with you privately trying to narrow down the don short list while you were off lynching wise guys?
Let me put it this way:
Reenk Roink helped "out" a whole bunch of scum. He was aware of Disco, he was aware of Ironside, he apparently infiltrated someone's groups and betrayed a bunch of you, which he claims he wasn't enthusiastic about. He's been right about almost everyone he pointed a finger at, and during the time he was pointing at Lord Winter, he was suggesting that Crazed Rabbit was also involved, and that you Sasaki, were involved in less than townie activities. I know whatever he was doing got a bunch of scumbags to vote for him, and after he died, he was proven innocent. And not innocent, and then a day or two later, ruh roh he's actually guilty or a communist, either. If he's a townie, and he is just making up stuff about you and Crazed Rabbit, then he's intentionally sabotaging the game (direct your frustration at him...). As far as I'm concerned, he's gotten a lot of dirt on people, he's a fairly trustworthy source, and his record speaks for itself for the most part. If you two are casualties of war, so be it. We've played mafia games before with a lot more innocent townies getting lynched on a lot less information than we have here.
But it isn't just Reenk's word against yours. There's your vouching for the successful protection done by a Don. There's your attempts to disrupt tied votes at the last minute. And there's your lack of cooperation when it comes to doing vigilante maneuvers at night, with no explanation as to why. You never claimed to be incapable of doing them, you're simply refusing.
And, if I may, you voted for me in the first lynch round because I was doing the terrible deed of organizing pro-town activities via private message. My goodness, toss me in jail. Maybe I'll borrow a page from Reenk's playbook here. Call it motivated self-interest. I consider your defenses of scummy mafiosi to be un-townie behavior.
How many Dons did you help me narrow down? You were defending one of them.
Who said anything about reenk?? That's all off topic.
And there's your lack of cooperation when it comes to doing vigilante maneuvers at night, with no explanation as to why. You never claimed to be incapable of doing them, you're simply refusing.
Do I need to quote from our pm conversations again? You say something you should know isn't true again...
Originally Posted by Sasaki in pm
As for the vig kills pizza, they might make you trust me, but others know better. Last time I did vig kills I used that wise guy promotion to join a mafia family and we won the game
I also told you many times that I wanted to be in protection groups to get promoted to doctor, and you said you would put me in a group with people who didn't have a successful protection, but someone else got last nights and the night before, very dishonest pizza.
How many Dons did you help me narrow down? You were defending one of them.
I voted to lynch djgingivitis, on one of the rounds where you accused me of "trying to save CR".
The reason I'm not a big fan of your group is your insistence on lynching people who "don't cooperate"--it's little more than McCarthyism.
I ended up with a don in my group because you suggested I invite him. Are you going to claim that isn't true as well?
It is better to conquer yourself than to win a thousand battles. Then, the victory is yours. It cannot be taken from you, not by angels or by demons, heaven or hell.
Originally Posted by Sasaki Kojiro
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