View Poll Results: Should the military be tobacco free

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    Hope guides me Senior Member Hosakawa Tito's Avatar
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    Exclamation Pentagon urges a tobacco free military

    I heard this one on the radio while at work yesterday. I'm not a smoker, and though I wish everyone could quit I'm a realist and can certainly sympathize with those working in a high stress environment. What I find most insulting about this proposal is the emphasis on "costs to the Pentagon budget", not the health of the soldiers. The Pentagon probably wastes more money than any US institution that we know about, but they're concerned about tobacco related costs to an all volunteer force. I find it hard to justify telling those that put their life on the line for us every day that they can't smoke if they want to. What's your verdict?
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    Leave them well alone. Soldiers need distractions.

    Whilst I don't smoke, this constant attack on a small vice is disproportionate.
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    Default Re: Pentagon urges a tobacco free military

    I can definitely see the logic and I'm sure that not smoking would lead to a healthier and better average soldier... but something just seems... wrong about this? Can't quite place my finger on it.
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    There was a time when the military encouraged smoking.... Hey also some of the worlds oldest people smoke a pack to two packs a day. It was on some movie in science about old people.
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    Default Re: Pentagon urges a tobacco free military

    Would never work.

    Need I say more?
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    Default Re: Pentagon urges a tobacco free military

    We demand that you live a long time!, now run into that firefight and get shot at. I sincerely believe that we will all be forced to wear helmets at some point in my lifetime. Soldiers can't even be trusted to make simple decisions about their own health.
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    Default Re: Pentagon urges a tobacco free military

    The only way of replacing it would be if there as a good nicotine driven "inhaler" the troops could use.

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    Default Re: Pentagon urges a tobacco free military

    Preposterous. Outrageous. Insulting. Wrong-Headed. Stupid. Ignorant.

    Therefore, it'll probably go through.
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    Default Re: Pentagon urges a tobacco free military

    Quote Originally Posted by KukriKhan View Post
    Preposterous. Outrageous. Insulting. Wrong-Headed. Stupid. Ignorant.

    Therefore, it'll probably go through.
    There goes a man who understands how the military brass thinks & works all too well.
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