Quote Originally Posted by Fisherking View Post
humm... double envelopment is a term used by, and a tactic that the US Marines think they invented...most people call it a pincer movement. And yes lord, it is a tactic.
OK, you got me there. It's still not really trying though, is it?

I think Hannibal got to the double envelopment about 2000 years before the US marines did.