Possible Factions

[bobbin]

Given that the other poll has some factions that definatley won't be in I thought I'd make a new one with a lot more options.

Choose the 8 you think will be in. If you don't know a faction name look it up, as its what we all promised to do when we installed EB


ps i voted for the Arevaci, Vascones, Nervii, Boii, Bosporan Kingdom, Kartli, Qataban, Kamboja's

Edit:Since some people didn't know what some of the options were I've written a quick explanation of each choice.

Arevaci - A celtiberian tribe
Érainn - A Goidelic (irish) tribe
Aquitanians/Vascones - Non Celtic speaking peoples of southwestern france and northeastern iberia, ancestors of the Basques.
Illegert - a heavily celticised iberian tribe from north eastern iberia (around emporion)
Nervii - A belgic tribe with germannic influences
Brigantes - Powerful british tribe residing in northern england.
Helvetii - Celtic tribe from the alps
Massalia - Greek city state in southern france (modern day marseille)
Ligures - A highly celticised italic people in north west italia
Syracuse - A greek city state in sicily
Boii - A Powerful celtic tribe in eastern central europe (modern day Bohemia)
Lugii - Germanic or slavic tribe in eastern central europe (modern day poland and germany)
Dalmatae - Illyrian tribe
Skordiskoi - Powerful celtic tribe in the balkans (modern day serbia and surrounding areas)
Rhaetians - Alpine tribe with either Celtic or Etruscan roots, or both
Tylis - Celtic kingdom ruling over majority thracian population in southeast balkans.
Bosporan Kingdom - Hellenic kingdom on the north coast of the black sea (modern day Crimea)
Galatia/Bythinia - Celtic kingdom in union with hellenic kingdom (modern day turkey)
Kappadoika - Persian sucessor kingdom, Rebelious satrap of the seleukids(eastern anatolia)
Kartli - Also know as Caucasian Iberia, main rival for the Hai, native Caucasus people, ancestors of modern day georgians.
Atropatene - Persian sucessor kingdom, eastern caucasuses (modern day Azerbaijan)
Nabateans - Semitic Arab Kingdom in the Sinai
Palmyrae - Arab kingdom in modern day syria
Massaesylians - Main rival of the Masaesyli and other major tribal power in numidia
Maures - African kingdom in modern day Mauritania. Ancestors of the Moors
Qataban - Southern arabian state in modern day yemen.
Hadrumaut - Another southern arabian state in modern day yemen.
Massagetae - powerful nomadic tribe in central asia, lie north of the Pahlava.
Kamboja's - Iranian people in northwestern india/hindu kush
Bartix - "tell what bartix and the faction that replaces armenia got then??"

[a completely inoffensive name]

I thought we had a thread just like this?

[bobbin]

Yeah but there was a bunch of factions included that were definatley not going to be EB ie judea, maurya etc and i felt it didn't have enough choices (no offence to Alsatia).

[a completely inoffensive name]

Well I didn't see you said 8 and according to my feelings I choose them all because ideally I want all of them to be included.

[Ibrahim]

Given that the other poll has some factions that definatley won't be in I thought I'd make a new one with a lot more options.

Choose the 8 you think will be in. If you don't know a faction name look it up, as its what we all promised to do when we installed EB


ps i voted for the Arevaci, Vascones, Nervii, Boii, Bosporan Kingdom, Kartli, Qataban, Kamboja's

well, I can't in good concience vote for 8, so I stuck to the ones I know will more likely be IMHO

[Meneldil]

Yeah but there was a bunch of factions included that were definatley not going to be EB ie judea, maurya etc and i felt it didn't have enough choices (no offence to Alsatia).

AFAIK, the possibility of a Maurian/Indian satrapy was first mentioned by an EB-team member, not by a fan (to answer requests for a Mauryan faction). Simply ditching it because you don't like the idea makes your poll just as non-valid as the previous one.

[Martelus Flavius]

Be sure that amongst those, I only voted for the more likely one.

Regards

Martelvs

[Aulus Caecina Severus]

I like to see boii and helveti in this list, also skordiscae are interesting, but those bosphoran kingdoms... mmmh

[bobbin]

AFAIK, the possibility of a Maurian/Indian satrapy was first mentioned by an EB-team member, not by a fan (to answer requests for a Mauryan faction). Simply ditching it because you don't like the idea makes your poll just as non-valid as the previous one.

I didn't ditch it because I didn't like the idea, but because I read comments from team members that lead me to believe that a mauryan satrap was unlikley to happen, think there's also a problem when it comes to the culture limit as well.

[bobbin]

Be sure that amongst those, I only voted for the more likely one.

Regards

Martelvs

Can't wait to see the Megacataclismai.

[Meneldil]

Though I agree the culture limit is an issue, fact remains that the Mauryan Empire was until its collapse a major actor in that area of the map, that successfully kept the Seleukids at bay (or even conquered some former Seleukid lands), played an important political, economical and military role.

I understand the difficulties to represent it correctly, given that most of the Empire would be outside of the map. There's also - I think - a lack of sources when it comes to the military aspect of the Empire (the only thing I could find Megasthenes' '600.000 infantry, 30.000 cavalry and 9.000 elephants').
What I mean is simply that the Mauryan Empire was for quite some time a power that was feared by the Seleukids (who were arguably the biggest military power of the hellenistic world), that deeply influenced the cultural and economical life in the area, that is partly responsible for the spreading of Bouddhism and what not. Whether a Mauryan/Mauryan satrapy faction appears in game or not, something should be done to simulate Mauryan foreign policies toward the Seleukids, Bactria and the Saka (rebels stacks spawning whenever the player conquer indian provinces or something like that would be a first step).

[SFS2006]

you forget to add Germanic tribes

[bobbin]

The Lugii were most likley germanic and the Nervii had heavy germanic influences. Probably should have added the Bastarnoz though.

[SFS2006]

oh sorry i forget the lugii.
i think you can add to your poll the chatti and cherusci,too.

[bobbin]

I've reached the maximum number of options for a poll so sadly can't put anymore in.

[Moros]

You made 29 guesses/poll options (not counting bartix) and only of them are 5 correct!? Did you try to not guess one or something?

[bobbin]

Ah well 5 out of 8 isn't too bad

Although now i'm intrigued as to what i missed out Kyrene maybe? or a germanic tribe? hmm

[Phalanx300]

You made 29 guesses/poll options (not counting bartix) and only of them are 5 correct!? Did you try to not guess one or something?

We must remember its Moros, then again he could be right and not be giving away any information.

I gues the massively voted ones are right ones!

[Moros]

We must remember its Moros, then again he could be right and not be giving away any information.

I gues the massively voted ones are right ones!

Nope telling I'm telling the truth. As that makes it more fun to watch.

Also not all of them have that many votes and not all those with many votes are in.

[Alsatia]

Yeah but there was a bunch of factions included that were definatley not going to be EB ie judea, maurya etc and i felt it didn't have enough choices (no offence to Alsatia).

It's fine. This list is way more comprehensive, and i only took the ones suggested from that time...

Maesylians: Aren't they not in EB II already? Or are you talking about the greeks in southern gaul?

Spoiler Alert, click show to read: 

Where's my balloon? I had this idea first.

[bobbin]

It's fine. This list is way more comprehensive, and i only took the ones suggested from that time...

Maesylians: Aren't they not in EB II already? Or are you talking about the greeks in southern gaul?

Spoiler Alert, click show to read: 

Where's my balloon? I had this idea first.

Hehe i suppose so! here you go

The Massaesyli were the other main tribe of the numidians. They were the main rival of the Massylii.

Also not all of them have that many votes and not all those with many votes are in.

Seems odd to me that the Kingdom of Kartli (Caucasian Iberia) isn't getting much votes, I thought they would be one of the most obvious candidates.

[Phalanx300]

I think that more because most people don't know what everything means....


I mean the Belgae got a lot of votes in the other tread but here you just put a part of the Belgae, the Nervii and it gets a few votes.

[Ibrahim]

Seems odd to me that the Kingdom of Kartli (Caucasian Iberia) isn't getting much votes, I thought they would be one of the most obvious candidates.

I don't know enough about them to form a true judgement on them, so I did not vote for them

[Moros]

I think that more because most people don't know what everything means....


I mean the Belgae got a lot of votes in the other tread but here you just put a part of the Belgae, the Nervii and it gets a few votes.

Probably less people know the Nervii than the Belgae. And some probably oppose the idea of using the Nervii to represent them.

[bobbin]

I can't seem to find a way to edit the poll options otherwise I would have put a short description after each one to explain them a bit better

[a completely inoffensive name]

I can't seem to find a way to edit the poll options otherwise I would have put a short description after each one to explain them a bit better

Or just tell people in the OP to use google?

[Megas Methuselah]

Or just tell people in the OP to use google?

Eh, some people are fools.

[option]

The Bosporan Kingdom and Syracuse are two I would be pretty shocked to see not included, because of their prominence and interesting conflicts they would create on the map (especially with Syracuse providing an interesting opponent for Rome and Carthage). I also went with the Nervii, Galatians, Nabataeans, Boii, Aquitani, and Massalians. Although I really think a Baltic tribe is just as necessary for the map as the first two factions I mentioned.

[bobbin]

Or just tell people in the OP to use google?

I kinda did.

If you don't know a faction name look it up, as its what we all promised to do when we installed EB

[Phalanx300]

Probably less people know the Nervii than the Belgae. And some probably oppose the idea of using the Nervii to represent them.

Well the only way I knew the Nervii were a part of the Belgae was because of some Belgae units unit cards.

And the Belgae should definately be in as a whole! We can then as easilly devide up the Sweboz, Arverni and Adui as well!