Possible Factions

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BTW, I seem to be missing a lot of powerful Germanic tribes in this poll...

The basis for that was a few statements by team members I read about how most germanic tribes were lacking the political coheison (or more likely evidence for political coheision) to warrent being represented as a faction at the start date and that the even inclusion of the Sweboz was streching things a bit. I wouldn't know where to find them now as I made the poll quite a while ago.
If i were to make the poll again now i would probably include a few such as the Cimbri or Chauci.

I wasn't implying Syracuse wasn't powerful, I was implying that as far as I had heard, they were content with their status as a sovereign city-state and would not be interested in expansion

Given their long struggle with Carthage you could bet they would at the very least try to extend their power to the whole of Sicily, outside of the island its harder to say if they had any ambitions, they raided Africa but this was part of a wider plan to lessen the pressure on their city and not a attempt at conquest.

Is it just me, or does it seem like there aren't eight factions on this list that meet the EB requirements to make it as a faction? I don't know, I just feel like there are a few obvious ones, but the rest are all kind of iffy in one way or another (not expansionist enough, we don't know enough about them, not enough provinces in the area, not historically influential enough to warrant a faction spot). Obviously, the whole list does not apply to every faction other than the obvious ones, but some of these are hurt by having one or more of these criteria applying to them.

This was made quite a while ago and their are a few that I would certainly remove (or redefine), quite a few have been ruled out at various times by team members but you could still make a strong list of possible factions.
Earlier in the thread Moros stated that 5 factions on the list were in EBII

Arevaci - A celtiberian tribe
Érainn - A Goidelic (irish) tribe
Aquitanians/Vascones - Non Celtic speaking peoples of southwestern france and northeastern iberia, ancestors of the Basques.
Illegert - a heavily celticised iberian tribe from north eastern iberia (around emporion)
Nervii - A belgic tribe with germannic influences
Brigantes - Powerful british tribe residing in northern england.
Helvetii - Celtic tribe from the alps
Massalia - Greek city state in southern france (modern day marseille)
Ligures - A highly celticised italic people in north west italia
Syracuse - A greek city state in sicily
Boii - A Powerful celtic tribe in eastern central europe (modern day Bohemia)
Lugii - Germanic or slavic tribe in eastern central europe (modern day poland and germany)
Dalmatae - Illyrian tribe
Skordiskoi - Powerful celtic tribe in the balkans (modern day serbia and surrounding areas)
Rhaetians - Alpine tribe with either Celtic or Etruscan roots, or both
Tylis - Celtic kingdom ruling over majority thracian population in southeast balkans.
Bosporan Kingdom - Hellenic kingdom on the north coast of the black sea (modern day Crimea)
Galatia/Bythinia - Celtic kingdom in union with hellenic kingdom (modern day turkey)
Kappadoika - Persian sucessor kingdom, Rebelious satrap of the seleukids(eastern anatolia)
Kartli - Also know as Caucasian Iberia, main rival for the Hai, native Caucasus people, ancestors of modern day georgians.
Atropatene - Persian sucessor kingdom, eastern caucasuses (modern day Azerbaijan)
Nabateans - Semitic Arab Kingdom in the Sinai
Palmyrae - Arab kingdom in modern day syria
Massaesylians - Main rival of the Masaesyli and other major tribal power in numidia
Maures - African kingdom in modern day Mauritania. Ancestors of the Moors
Qataban - Southern arabian state in modern day yemen.
Hadrumaut - Another southern arabian state in modern day yemen.
Massagetae - powerful nomadic tribe in central asia, lie north of the Pahlava.
Kamboja's - Iranian people in northwestern india/hindu kush

(i crossed out the ones that have either been ruled out or that were in my opinion weak choices.)

From the list I would pick,
Bosporan Kingdom (obviously)
Massaesylians
Boii
Kartli
A Belgae tribe (just putting the Nervi was bit silly i admit, so I'd redefine it as any Belgae tribe)
Arevaci (or other celtiberian tribe)
the final two are a bit tough but the Scordiscii, Kappadoika, Galatia/Bythinia, Atropatene, Helvetii, and some sort of Kamboja tribe would all be strong candidates