Oh the woes of those poor, hunted billionares...

Originally Posted by Idaho

What would I be being deprived of? One more ivory back-scratcher?

I don't mind a progressive income taxation system, but this kind of attitude really annoys me.

Originally Posted by Ice

I don't mind a progressive income taxation system, but this kind of attitude really annoys me.

Really? What annoys me is multi-millionaires who pay less tax than me.

Originally Posted by Idaho

Really? What annoys me is multi-millionaires who pay less tax than me.

Nice to know, although this really doesn't justify your statement.

Originally Posted by Idaho
Really? What annoys me is multi-millionaires who pay less tax than me.

Oh are you a billionaire?

Originally Posted by Ice

Nice to know, although this really doesn't justify your statement.

I think my statement is fair enough. There is rampant poverty, disease and hardship in the world, and some billionaire gets angry because a state which has helped him earn $30 million in a year wants to claim $5 million to help pay for infrastructure.

I thought you said that they payed less than you. Wow you must make alot of money if they pay 5 million. (sorry couldn't resist)

Originally Posted by Centurion1

I thought you said that they payed less than you. Wow you must make alot of money if they pay 5 million. (sorry couldn't resist)

Nah, it's the opposite; if he made a lot of money he wouldn't be paying much in tax, while if he doesn't make a lot of money, he will pay a lot in tax

On a serious note horetore. you realize that like all rich people pay more taxes than a poor person. They may not pay as much as their supposed to but they will probably pay more.

Originally Posted by Idaho

I think my statement is fair enough. There is rampant poverty, disease and hardship in the world, and some billionaire gets angry because a state which has helped him earn $30 million in a year wants to claim $5 million to help pay for infrastructure.

Idaho, you are missing my objection to your quote. I inferred that you meant that millionares have nothing better to do with their money than buy an ivory backscratcher. This is simply not true. There are many millionaries who give the extra money they made to charity or use it another useful manner. Not everyone who makes money is a greedy SOB, and I strongly dislike when people try to make that point.

Originally Posted by Ice

Idaho, you are missing my objection to your quote. I inferred that you meant that millionares have nothing better to do with their money than buy an ivory backscratcher. This is simply not true. There are many millionaries who give the extra money they made to charity or use it another useful manner. Not everyone who makes money is a greedy SOB, and I strongly dislike when people try to make that point.

A millionaire who leaves a restaurant without paying their bill is a thief. A millionaire who leaves a country without paying their tax is also a thief.

Originally Posted by Idaho

A millionaire who leaves a restaurant without paying their bill is a thief. A millionaire who leaves a country without paying their tax is also a thief.

I'm not talking about this particular situation.

Originally Posted by Idaho

A millionaire who leaves a restaurant without paying their bill is a thief. A millionaire who leaves a country without paying their tax is also a thief.

That would be a simplification, and we are taught to be cautious in the face of them... Not that you are correct or incorrect, just noting that simplifying politics and economics tends to not work/ be accurate. A good rhetorical metaphor though.

Tax refugees are paupers who can't afford to live in a civilized country.


I do want to close the loopholes within the civilized world. Monaco, Switzerland, Ireland, all those little islands of dubious sovereignity. I say we force them closed, and force the tax refugees into the jungle. Force 'em to try Colombia and the Congo, let 'em find out how well protected their wealth is in countries without stable governments and the rule of law - you know, all that 'wasteful nonsense' that civilized people pay top tax dollars for.

Actually it would probably be pretty safe. a billionaire could most likely buy the congo. And therefore buy all the guns

Yes, well, such is the nature of living in a social democracy. Of course this tax isn't exclusive to Norway. That is what the poor prosecuted rich think everywhere, that only in their country they are 'punished' for doing well. In France, one pays 'Impôt de solidarité sur la fortune', or ISF. It works exactly the same as Norway's wealth tax.

And in France too, many wealthy flee to Switzerland. Johnny Hallyday is a notable example. Get rich in France, move to Monaco to avoid income tax, and move your capital to Switzerland to avoid wealth tax.

This is how the very wealthy manage to avoid paying their share. Bunch of leechers. It is taxes like this that is the difference between Brazil and Europe. It is why Norway has the world's highest social mobility, and Brazil one of the lowest. Brazil has very few self-made men. Scandinavia abounds in them. Yet, once they've made it, they cry and complain about the unfairness of it all. Losers.

I am bowing out of this conversation because all these taxes and what the guy is paying or not paying is going over my head. I don't even understand wtf kind of tax this guy, horetore tells me its the asset tax but from sigurd I got the impression that if he is worth billions he would be taxed more then 10 million. Whatever, I am done. I am going to read a taxes for dummies book.