Bodyguards upkeep

**Valhal** · 07-27-2009, 14:00

Hi

I was just wondering why you (modteam) decided on not having an upkeep for the Bodyguard unts?

And if it was intentionel to let the Spartan bodyguard have an upkeep?

Cheers

**Mediolanicus** · 07-27-2009, 14:13

Your Royal family is rich enough to pay for their own personal bodyguards.

There is no Spartan bodyguard. The starting (and only the starting) KH spartan characters do have a normal Spartan unit assigned to them by the campaign script, but this is not really a bodyguard unit.

**Apázlinemjó** · 07-27-2009, 15:33

Originally Posted by Mediolanicus

Your Royal family is rich enough to pay for their own personal bodyguards.

There is no Spartan bodyguard. The starting (and only the starting) KH spartan characters do have a normal Spartan unit assigned to them by the campaign script, but this is not really a bodyguard unit.

And the scripted mercenary Spartan general in the Punic Wars event, nope?

**Ludens** · 07-27-2009, 18:42

Because you already pay 200 mnai per family member regardless of the bodyguard cost. In the economy scroll this is categorized under wages, not army upkeep.

**Valhal** · 07-28-2009, 07:07

Originally Posted by Ludens

Because you already pay 200 mnai per family member regardless of the bodyguard cost. In the economy scroll this is categorized under wages, not army upkeep.

You say for each family member - does that include women (wifes, widowes and daughters) and children?

Cheers

**Megas Methuselah** · 07-28-2009, 07:14

Originally Posted by Valhal

You say for each family member - does that include women (wifes, widowes and daughters) and children?

Cheers

Of course not, you fool.

**Watchman** · 07-27-2009, 18:45

Pretty sure whathisname, Xanthippos?, has a bunch of Spartans as his retinue in the same fashion as the starting KH Spartiate FMs.

Anyways, all FMs actually cost a lump sum as "salary" (ca. 200 mnai IIRC) which can probably be assumed to cover the assorted costs of the high living such aristocrats engage in by default and the drain this incurs on the finances of the realm. Their bodyguard units are more like their personal followers attracted by their wealth and influence (covered by the influence trait) and personal efforts and whatnots (modifiers to the "personal security" score from traits, ancillaries etc. also affect the number of men), and are assumed to be covered by their personal finances.

EDIT: Dang, Ludens beat me to it. "If it wasn't for you meddling kids..."

**Brave Brave Sir Robin** · 07-27-2009, 23:41

Some of the Seleukid generals have Babylonian spearmen bodyguards as well.

**Megas Methuselah** · 07-28-2009, 01:55

Originally Posted by Brave Brave Sir Robin

Some of the Seleukid generals have Babylonian spearmen bodyguards as well.

But they aren't Family Members, are they?

**Valhal** · 07-28-2009, 07:14

Originally Posted by Mediolanicus

There is no Spartan bodyguard. The starting (and only the starting) KH spartan characters do have a normal Spartan unit assigned to them by the campaign script, but this is not really a bodyguard unit.

Ohh.. had hoped that it was the "spartan" trait that decided what kind of units the "bodyguard was.
So my future generations of spartan FM could kick some persian ass at some point

Is it possible to change the script so that the spartan trait gives you the spartan as bodyguards?

Cheers

**Megas Methuselah** · 07-28-2009, 07:20

Originally Posted by Valhal

Ohh.. had hoped that it was the "spartan" trait that decided what kind of units the "bodyguard was.
So my future generations of spartan FM could kick some persian ass at some point

Is it possible to change the script so that the spartan trait gives you the spartan as bodyguards?

Cheers

I don't think so. Otherwise the EB Team would have already done so. Or there'd be a mini-mod for it.