Romani Overpowered

**Tellos Athenaios** · 07-31-2009, 23:42

Originally Posted by Immortales

Excuse me, I don`t see the problem in raising the income. Why isn't that effectively possible?

Raising income works up to a certain point. The problem is that port income adds much more to the balance than land trade (further complicated by the fact that the SPQR has plenty of AI neighbours to trade with as opposed to only Eleutheroi who will trade with nobody but other Eleutheroi) Furthermore a good deal of trade-to-India would occur outside of our map. And for a revelation, count the number of possible ports. In Italy alone you can have up to 10 ports I think? By comparsion all sea-trade between Memphis and Charax must make do with some 19 ports?

**A Terribly Harmful Name** · 08-01-2009, 00:12

Is there a way to change the trade income from roads and the general land trade multipliers? This might partially fix it.

**Watchman** · 08-01-2009, 07:11

Note that anything done with roads will also at least partially feed into the port trade output too...

Personally I've been toying with the idea of modding my copy of the EDB to give rather higher bonus trade goods from river ports, the caravan buildings line and trade-route uniques like the Amber and Silk Roads. Also would it be possible to put in a small fixed cash bonus to them to help balance them against the engine-skewed sea trade ?

BTW, random note: didn't the Amber Route also run over the Alps from Noricum to the end of the Adriatic ? That's what I've read in several sources anyway...

**antisocialmunky** · 08-01-2009, 13:45

Can we have a predictable trade system in EBII? AS it is, I have no idea how much more $$$ I generate from building stuff or trade income.

**Alsatia** · 08-01-2009, 14:51

Problem is, we cannot. All we can hope for is to build those roads, markets, mines and ports until we get a sizeable income.

**Tellos Athenaios** · 08-01-2009, 16:47

Originally Posted by Watchman

BTW, random note: didn't the Amber Route also run over the Alps from Noricum to the end of the Adriatic ? That's what I've read in several sources anyway...

Later development AFAIK. Basically an adaptation reflecting the new economic realities after the SPQR became more than just some far-far-away state.

**seienchin** · 08-01-2009, 22:55

There is no point in arguing about money and the economy system in EB.

Its completly nonsense and is as far from reality as it goes, but thats because of the rome engine.
So the team wants the romans to have the ability to spam stack after stack just like they did in the punic wars and so the only way is to make their units cheap and their lands rich.
But I would wish for Multiplayer to have the romans cost more than they do now.

**Alsatia** · 08-02-2009, 23:03

Originally Posted by seienchin

There is no point in arguing about money and the economy system in EB.

Its completly nonsense and is as far from reality as it goes, but thats because of the rome engine.
So the team wants the romans to have the ability to spam stack after stack just like they did in the punic wars and so the only way is to make their units cheap and their lands rich.
But I would wish for Multiplayer to have the romans cost more than they do now.

Erm... This is for M2TW:K........ Just had to say that

**Space_Ed** · 08-03-2009, 13:51

I think it will be much more challenging playing as Romani due to the enhanced AI in M2TW:K. As the Carthaginians, Epirotes etc are liable to land large armies on Italy's coasts via sea I think this will make playing as Romani much more of a challenge and so I think it won't be as much of a walk over playing against these factions.

**antisocialmunky** · 08-03-2009, 23:49

Originally Posted by seienchin

There is no point in arguing about money and the economy system in EB.

Its completly nonsense and is as far from reality as it goes, but thats because of the rome engine.
So the team wants the romans to have the ability to spam stack after stack just like they did in the punic wars and so the only way is to make their units cheap and their lands rich.
But I would wish for Multiplayer to have the romans cost more than they do now.

You can probably minimize MIITW's system and jsut make buildings give you concrete values.

**Chris1959** · 08-04-2009, 14:16

Would a way round the increase in trade goods from caravans (ie silk road etc) be to treat them like mines giving a fixed income per turn when built. Far from perfect but a way to simulate the potential of a trade route.