Conseil du Royaume

[Ibn-Khaldun]

Charles enters..

Father and Nobles of the France,

I am Prince Charles. Some might know me alread but those who don't .. it's a great honor being here!

He nods and takes his seat..

[Ituralde]

I strongly support getting rid of the positions in England. Robert Bouchart followed me as Captain of the Order of the Fleur de Lys because he believed in the righteousness of bringing King William to justice in a Holy Crusade! He never wanted conquest or glory, just the satisfaction of having served his Lord in the greatest capacity possible under the guidelines of Edict E1.3. I will not see Robert Boucharts death used to justify a land grab in England!

[_Tristan_]

Hearing Montpierre's words, Philippe's anger rises.

Nor would I see him dead for nothing... Did Bouchart die so that some English noble with a stronger voice or more bravery than his neighbour claims the title of Nottingham or York or London ? Would we not have have replaced then an evil by another ? What does that stand in the eyes of God, whom you're so fond of calling upon ?

I'm always reminded by you and others that the Crusade on England was not called. Need I remind you that such a venture, though it had my favour at the time, did not have the full support of this body and was voted only by the slightest margin.

Need I also remind you that as we delayed until you Order knights prepared yourself and marched across half of Europe to join in the preparations. And that this delay diverted us from our course as the Moors entered our lands, with hardly a peaceful intent. How many here asked that a Crusade be called on the Moors instead ?

I would make a poor ruler were I to completely ignore the will of almost half my Royaume.

I will not let you insult the memory of Robert Bouchart by calling what he helped us accomplish a "land-grab".

Our duty is God's eyes is to provide to those that deserve and punish those who do not. We've accomplished the latter and we would fail in the first, were we to follow the course of action you propose to us.

At least, de Perrone's proposal has the merit of enabling us to gain something from our campaign, when I'm sorry to say that Bouchart's blood, your own brother knight, would have been shed for nothing if Edict 3.1 were meant to pass.

My purpose is not to keep to ourselves those English provinces. They would have their uses but as de Perrone reminded us, they might come at a cost. But I will not see them given away freely to men unfit to rule them, men that could themselves become threat to our Royaume in years to come.

[Ramses II CP]

First I wish to announce my candidacy for the position of Seneschal. I have observed my predecessors most carefully, and so my platform will be one open to input from all houses. Do not be shy in your suggestions.

With that in mind, I have several matters of importance to put forth. If I am elected Seneschal it will not be necessary to make these matters into edicts, I will enact them by virtue of my position.

1. The hiring of new mercenaries shall be capped at two companies per House for the duration of the term; requests to be submitted in writing and in public to the Seneschal in the Council chamber. The King is exempt from the cap, of course.

2. Peace will be accomplished with the English and the Germans. Agents shall be recruited to monitor the remaining English and German territories for warning signs of their intent to return to war. Economic development of the core of France will be the priority of my term following the declaration of peace, to that end I will ask that Barons owning cities request structures with that goal in mind.

3. A crusade against the Moors will be declared on terms similar to those proposed for the English crusade, but only after peace has been assured on at least one other front. Distribution of lands taken in the crusade will be done in a fair manner within the purview of the King's desires, of course.

4. A pair of diplomats shall be assigned solely to the task of maintaining France's good reputation with the Papacy.

Are there any other subjects on which the Council would like to hear my thoughts?

I will second edict 3.2.

[TinCow]

As it appears my suggestion has some support, I will propose it as law in the form I believe best.

Edict 3.3: All settlements in the British Isles will be given to Scotland. The Seneschal must attempt to obtain an alliance with Scotland in return for these settlements. However, if the Seneshal determines that the Scots will not agree to an alliance, no matter how favorable the deal, the Seneshal shall give the provinces to Scotland for whatever deal benefits France the most.

[AussieGiant]

I second Edict 3.3.

[Ituralde]

I second Edict 3.3. I'm done with the Isles, one way or another.

[Vladimir]

As it appears my suggestion has some support, I will propose it as law in the form I believe best.

Edict 3.3: All settlements in the British Isles will be given to Scotland. The Seneschal must attempt to obtain an alliance with Scotland in return for these settlements. However, if the Seneshal determines that the Scots will not agree to an alliance, no matter how favorable the deal, the Seneshal shall give the provinces to Scotland for whatever deal benefits France the most.

Perhaps we should reword the edict as such:

All settlements in the British Isles currently controlled by France will be given to Scotland. The Seneschal must attempt to obtain an alliance with Scotland in return for these settlements. However, if the Seneshal determines that the Scots will not agree to an alliance, no matter how favorable the deal, the Seneshal shall give the provinces to Scotland for whatever deal benefits France the most.

Were the original wording to stand, we would need to conquer all English settlements and destroy the faction entirely. Then we would turn all of these settlements over to someone who may not even wish to ally with us.

I agree, in spirit, of course, and will contribute whatever influence I can muster toward its end.

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A lawyer? C'mon man.

[deguerra]

I am happy with either solution. Scots, England or otherwise. What I wish to avoid is permanent French holdings in Britain. Let us not meet the injustice of Guillaume with an injustice of our own.