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    I agree with both of you. I think a crusade, finally against a worthy opponent, is an effective measure. At the same time I think it should NOT involve more senseless land-grabbing such as is occurring in England despite all the many previous cries that it was only William we were after. HAH.

    So Crusade yes, and return the lands to the Spaniards. Just as the English lands should be returned to a British sovereign, be he English or Scottish.
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    *Christophe smiles wryly at Gontran de Linars.*

    A most astute observation, sir. I would not wish my edict withdrawing France from those blasted rocks to be used as an excuse for further conquests there. I hereby adopt your suggestion and reword Edict 3.3 as follows:

    Edict 3.3: All settlements in the British Isles currently controlled by France will be given to Scotland. The Seneschal must attempt to obtain an alliance with Scotland in return for these settlements. However, if the Seneshal determines that the Scots will not agree to an alliance, no matter how favorable the deal, the Seneshal shall give the provinces to Scotland for whatever deal benefits France the most.

    Oh, and I also I hereby second Edict 3.2.
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    In line with my above statements, I propose

    Edict 3.7

    If a Crusade is called on the Moors, via Edict 3.6 or otherwise, all lands conquered on the Iberian peninsula are to be returned to the Kingdom of Spain
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    Louis gives his little brother a look of very clear amusement before replying.

    I second edict 3.7 and edict 3.3 as amended.

    If my prior comments were not sufficient to answer your absurd concern, dear princeling, I trust that second takes care of the matter. The Spaniards are too weak to benefit from financial support, we must aid my wife's people directly.

    Furthermore your comments on my faith are unworthy of reply and, quite frankly, insulting in the extreme. If a man challenged me so he would face my answer on the point of my sword. Think twice before you charge me with heathenish impulses again. I am a man of God and none may question that with impunity.

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    I believe I am in need of a clarification.

    If I recall correctly, our charter states that the King's perogative is to appoint himself chancellor, not nominate. Surely his higness meant the former?

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    I wish to support the modified Edict 3.3, Edict 3.2, Edict 3.6, Edict 3.7, and...um can I do that?

    *looks to Kip, who shrugs*

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    I also second Edict 3.7
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cecil XIX View Post
    If I recall correctly, our charter states that the King's perogative is to appoint himself chancellor, not nominate. Surely his higness meant the former?


    And surely you meant Senechal, Duc Raymond ? We're not Reichlanders...

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    Don't forget I'm no native speaker and can't speak "Legalite"... Nominate = appoint in my view...
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    I would support Edict 3.6 but I feel it goes too far, especially in light of the fact that our next Seneschal is to be the King himself.

    This is not an offence to you however, my father, but merely I feel the Edict should focus on getting a Crusade approved, provinces pre-ratified and an intended scope of the Crusade. Should this be all Iberian provinces held by the Moors for example?

    On the question of lands being returned to the Spanish, you know my feelings on this matter so again I agree with the Edict in so much as it goes not as far as I wished, but I feel it is not needed in an Edict anymore. Lands ratified will pass to the King, who is also Seneschal, and therefore I believe that in this case he will do what is the best course in this matter. Greatly improved relations with Spain would be a significant boon and should it be chosen to use these Iberian provinces as part of enhancing that relationship I will not stand in its way.

    Spain is a “land-neighbour” of our lands and it is important to deal with them well for they have not shown us any disregard.

    For those that find my comments at odds somewhat with my own comments regarding the provinces in England…well, I hope it is known now that I do not care for England and purely wish it back in true English hands. Should Edict 3.1 fail then I am heartened to know there are other similar Edicts which mention granting such holdings to Scotland even and I am thankful for them. I hope at least one comes to pass.
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    A letter arrives from Duc Raymond in Dijon.

    Your majesty,

    In anticipation of future battles with the Germans I shall use one of my prioritizations to recruit one regiment of town militia immediately. Also, I have a question for our scribes: Can an Lord use his prioritizations to recruit soldiers in settlements owned by his vassals?

    Your obediant,
    R. de Provence

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