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    Quote Originally Posted by Cartaphilus View Post
    Keep sieging the city till the garrison is forced to sally forth.
    But...but... I want to be more like the Mongol horde, storming cities and roaming the country with my cavalry forces, rather than having my cavalrymen sitting on their arse for two years or more...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cartaphilus View Post
    Keep sieging the city till the garrison is forced to sally forth.

    Yeah! That's how I do it anyways!
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    Quote Originally Posted by The General View Post
    But...but... I want to be more like the Mongol horde, storming cities and roaming the country with my cavalry forces, rather than having my cavalrymen sitting on their arse for two years or more...

    Genghis Khan spent years of his life waiting in seige around enemy towns. Admittidly they did develop some decent catapaults but many of those could be outranged and destroyed before they could take down the larger walls. It was his method of seige that made things go much faster.
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    Default Re: Permanent Stone Forts question

    Quote Originally Posted by Cartaphilus View Post
    Keep sieging the city till the garrison is forced to sally forth.
    you are forgetting the negative traits when you send your general to siege, like hesitant attacker even some are permenant ...

    P.S. do not say send the captain then, I am a blitzer yeah, but I blitz with role play ..
    too ironic yes...



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    herm the 1st siege batle that genghis khans fought in china he ended up loosing half of his forçes according to the sources and thats because he had some engineers and a mercenary army provided by the chinese when they tryed to stop him from going around the great wall (i guess the chinese never had heard of the epirot troubles with the keltoi mercenaries or they wouldn´t have recruited an entire mercenary army) or else he probably would have lost due to impatiente (in the end the city surrendered after having eaten all the dogs animals and many sources claim their own dead where eaten)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Atraphoenix View Post
    you are forgetting the negative traits when you send your general to siege, like hesitant attacker even some are permenant ...

    P.S. do not say send the captain then, I am a blitzer yeah, but I blitz with role play ..
    too ironic yes...
    I don't think siegeing gives you hesitant attacker. I siege to end every single city on the map; very few (if any) of my generals get hesitant attacker. I remember in vanilla you could get negative command stars for siegeing if you had no siege equipment, so just build lots of ladders then drop them when the sally starts to avoid those traits...dunno if it carried over to EB but its become habit now.

    I think hesitant attacker only comes when you choose to attack (looking at the enemy troops in perfect detail) then pull back and continue the siege. Same as any field battle where you initiate an attack and then pull back. To avoid that.....just don't do it, wait the siege out normally.
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