Possibly the most pathetic display of racism ever.

[Samurai Waki]

How "danish" are these guys culturally? Are there any Danes in the house who can answer this?

You're basically asking "how long do you have to live in Denmark, to be considered Danish?" I don't know if you're ever going to get a reliable consensus.

[Husar]

Yeah, but is having a stamp that says "danish" in your passport enough to be considered of danish culture?

[Idaho]

Yeah, but is having a stamp that says "danish" in your passport enough to be considered of danish culture?

This is the great question of the age.

The follow-up question is "Should people always behave in a way that the majority in a society feel happy and comfortable with?"

Then the question after that is "To what extent do individuals have rights of belief and expression?"


Of course, as ever, none of you see the historical parrallels. The development of fascism in the early 20th century was due to the creation of new, potentially disparate nations. When Germany and Italy were created out of the various smaller states they had to impose an ideal of nationhood. Everything had to branded with the mark of the new nation. Germany still has Bundes-everything. The side-effect of this is it left a large number of people with questionable loyalty. Catholics (to Rome), Gypsies and Jews.

[Fragony]

The answer to the age old question is very simple, that freedom ends where someone else's freedom begins, where that is different for every culture but ignoring said rule is asking for trouble. There, I just saved the world.

[Husar]

The answer to the age old question is very simple, that freedom ends where someone else's freedom begins, where that is different for every culture but ignoring said rule is asking for trouble. There, I just saved the world.

Your freedom ends where my freedom begins.
In other words your freedom to do what you want ends where my freedom to make you do what I want begins.

[Fragony]

Your freedom ends where my freedom begins.
In other words your freedom to do what you want ends where my freedom to make you do what I want begins.

Yes but I think I said it better, more compact.

[Furunculus]

The follow-up question is "Should people always behave in a way that the majority in a society feel happy and comfortable with?"

Then the question after that is "To what extent do individuals have rights of belief and expression?"

Of course, as ever, none of you see the historical parrallels. The development of fascism in the early 20th century was due to the creation of new, potentially disparate nations. When Germany and Italy were created out of the various smaller states they had to impose an ideal of nationhood. Everything had to branded with the mark of the new nation. Germany still has Bundes-everything. The side-effect of this is it left a large number of people with questionable loyalty. Catholics (to Rome), Gypsies and Jews.

No, to use an old English saying; "do whatever you want, just don't scare the horses", i.e. its not my business to interfere in your life, just make sure you don't interfere in mine.

Every right up to the point it interferes in someone else's life. eg, british jews. They look funny, they keep themselves apart, the east funny food, have a funny religion, but who cares, because they live there lives without imposing that view on others.
Then for example you have the millions of ME/muslim immigrants the UK is trying to 'assimilate'. They look funny, they keep themselves apart, the east funny food, have a funny religion, but find themselves the object of distrust from the native population, because that native population perceives a noisy grievance culture from the newcomers which is forcing the natives to adjust their lives to accommodate a griping minority who really ought to be grateful they got citizenship and quietly set about making themselves British, i.e. the italicized English idiom above.

Some of us see those exact problems in the attempt to forge a federal europe.

[Idaho]

Every right up to the point it interferes in someone else's life. eg, british jews. They look funny, they keep themselves apart, the east funny food, have a funny religion, but who cares, because they live there lives without imposing that view on others.
Then for example you have the millions of ME/muslim immigrants the UK is trying to 'assimilate'. They look funny, they keep themselves apart, the east funny food, have a funny religion, but find themselves the object of distrust from the native population, because that native population perceives a noisy grievance culture from the newcomers which is forcing the natives to adjust their lives to accommodate a griping minority who really ought to be grateful they got citizenship and quietly set about making themselves British

The actual examples of natives having to adjust their lives are remarkable thin on the ground, and yet remarkably prevalent in the media. I certainly have never had to adjust my life in any way shape or form. Nor has anyone I know or met. However all have read the stories in the newspapers.

[Furunculus]

The actual examples of natives having to adjust their lives are remarkable thin on the ground, and yet remarkably prevalent in the media. I certainly have never had to adjust my life in any way shape or form. Nor has anyone I know or met. However all have read the stories in the newspapers.

this would be one example:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Racial_...atred_Act_2006

[HoreTore]

this would be one example:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Racial_...atred_Act_2006

So.....

How have you changed your life because of it?

[Idaho]

this would be one example:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Racial_...atred_Act_2006

Yeah it's really put a crimp on my day now that I can't:

Section 29B:
(1) A person who uses threatening words or behaviour, or displays any written material which is threatening, is guilty of an offence if he intends thereby to stir up religious hatred

[Furunculus]

You're hanging in the breeze here old boy.

I don't really care, my response to your questions i still deem perfectly adequate.

The follow-up question is "Should people always behave in a way that the majority in a society feel happy and comfortable with?"

Then the question after that is "To what extent do individuals have rights of belief and expression?"

Of course, as ever, none of you see the historical parrallels. The development of fascism in the early 20th century was due to the creation of new, potentially disparate nations. When Germany and Italy were created out of the various smaller states they had to impose an ideal of nationhood. Everything had to branded with the mark of the new nation. Germany still has Bundes-everything. The side-effect of this is it left a large number of people with questionable loyalty. Catholics (to Rome), Gypsies and Jews.

No, to use an old English saying; "do whatever you want, just don't scare the horses", i.e. its not my business to interfere in your life, just make sure you don't interfere in mine.

Every right up to the point it interferes in someone else's life. eg, british jews. They look funny, they keep themselves apart, the east funny food, have a funny religion, but who cares, because they live there lives without imposing that view on others.
Then for example you have the millions of ME/muslim immigrants the UK is trying to 'assimilate'. They look funny, they keep themselves apart, the east funny food, have a funny religion, but find themselves the object of distrust from the native population, because that native population perceives a noisy grievance culture from the newcomers which is forcing the natives to adjust their lives to accommodate a griping minority who really ought to be grateful they got citizenship and quietly set about making themselves British, i.e. the italicized English idiom above.

Some of us see those exact problems in the attempt to forge a federal europe.

i object to the fact that i have to listen to the whining from both hand-wringing liberals justifying the actions of their pet guilt and ME/muslims saying how their having a hard time.

i don't have to listen to jews making a fuss about how they deserve more, i don't have to listen to the village of Little Uppingly whine about they are disadvantaged, nor too do i hear any complaint from the million odd Poles frequenting these isles.

therefore some groups fail my don't scare the horses test, and others pass.

[Idaho]

i don't have to listen to jews making a fuss about how they deserve more, i don't have to listen to the village of Little Uppingly whine about they are disadvantaged, nor too do i hear any complaint from the million odd Poles frequenting these isles.

therefore some groups fail my don't scare the horses test, and others pass.

Really? I find that you just have to look at the Israeli flag funny to get shrieks of anti-semitism. And the news is cram-packs with nonsense about little-englanders under seige or our culture being eroded by these scary foreigners. My horses get scared daily by all this bollo.

[Furunculus]

odd, i don't see that.

so we don't have a problem of over-immigration, i think there are quite a few people who'd disagree with you.

again, why are people so irritated by ME/islam in Britain, oh that's right, its just the media brain-washing them, they don't get to think for themselves and buy the shrieky red-tops even though they don't agree with anything they say. right.