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    Quote Originally Posted by Philipvs Vallindervs Calicvla View Post
    There are reasons all those people were victimised, and they are actual reasons. That doesn't make it right at all, but it makes your point; it isn't different this time.
    So............

    The Jews did control the world....?
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    Quote Originally Posted by HoreTore View Post
    So............

    The Jews did control the world....?
    No, they were deicides and often political dissidents. No one thought they controlled the world in 1300, they thought they killed children. Whether that was true or not is an entirely different issue.

    What is true is that by refusing to even superficially convert they placed themselves outside of society.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Philipvs Vallindervs Calicvla View Post
    No, they were deicides and often political dissidents. No one thought they controlled the world in 1300, they thought they killed children. Whether that was true or not is an entirely different issue.

    What is true is that by refusing to even superficially convert they placed themselves outside of society.
    I don't think you meant the above statements to be as categorical as they read.

    For example: deicides? Even if one accepts the Christian deity, any one of the few hundred that may have called for His death were very, very long dead by the 14th century.

    So I assume you were talking in the mindset of the times?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Banquo's Ghost View Post
    I don't think you meant the above statements to be as categorical as they read.

    For example: deicides? Even if one accepts the Christian deity, any one of the few hundred that may have called for His death were very, very long dead by the 14th century.

    So I assume you were talking in the mindset of the times?
    Sorry, I forget that sometimes I'm not speaking with that as a given.

    In the context of the time Christianity was the accepted norm, to the extent that anything else would be considered the "lunatic fringe", just a flat-Earthers and Creationists are today.

    It is a matter of record that Jews were considered Deicides and child-murderers. What's more, the argument for deicide was logical given the assumptions of the time. That argument runs:
    If they were alive at the time they would have given up Our Lord as a Heretic too.
    At the time, that was considered important.

    Today, Muslim extremism is considered important.
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