Hello again.

Now for the saka so far im not to far along so ill finish it in one go.



The saka start of in the north east corner with one city chiglu. U have a bit of money and 3 battle groups. one west next to gava saka (group1) another north of chach (Group2)
and finally anotherone south near sulek(group3) but a few turns away.
option1 disbanding is one way to get out of dept but it will be boring for a loooooong time and ur enemies will get stronger faster than u.

Option 2
as advised in other guides is expand. (and dont diband ANYTHING) AND SET ALL UR TAXES ON GROWTH!!!!!! it will help u on the loooong run when ur polulation is not 600 per town. how to get money conquer of course.

in ur capital u should have a fm and HA unit, you need them out and charging. so First spend ALL or ur money on 1 foot archer and the rest on HA. move ur horses out leave the capital uninhabited. Now u may choose to move the capitals horses to support the group outside sulek coz its the toughest. and this is the weakest battle group. or gamble and have them go to chach but west towrds gava saka then south to chach. (this is the best route coz the direct route south of sulek near gava hoamvarga whats its name. is guarded by too many rebels.

Youl say why spend ill say ull need them to take and hold the entire area south of u and you wont train any for a while.

Now group1 atack gava saka in the first turn ull have to do it by leaving the footarchers behind coz they run out of movement points. dump them in the next turn to garison gava saka.

move group2 toward chach take it sack it and move out of it southwardsto the other 2 towns. dont stop. next turn ull. have the foot archer garison in chiglu so move ur capital to chach. and nock the other 2 towns neat ot with souther battle group.

In the meanwhile move the easter group out of gava saka and move them south itll take a few turns. and by the time u have the chach trio of cities secured. group 3 should attack sulek. this will be a very tough fight. use ur fm to engave any horse archers in range block them at the entrance to the town and use the horse archers to shoot at anything specially the saka havy cavalry in there and keep ur horses out of arow shot. after that leave the fm in there for now and move ther horses south vea the path west of chiglu towards


THE whole emphasis of this part is speed and minimise loses in allll ur units except ur FM. its a pain to retrain. chach is the only available one provided it has people but since ull sack it that will be a while. move all the HA u train to chach the minute their ready leve nothin that has 4 legs north. in chiglu and sulek.


NOW phase 2 theres no pause between them by the way.

I had a candidate for adoption in chach so i left him in the city in the left of the trio and left the city on the right ungarisoned. group 2 continued towards Antiochea-margiane sack it thyll sally out. U should have some money hire a mercenary archer unit leave it in and move group2 towards pahlava!!!! (better kill them in the womb.

by the time u kill aniochea margiane. group1 from the west should have arived at baktra besiege it. When i did it they were all at kophen except one 3/4 stack which i killed. let them sally as much as they want in a turn. or kill the garison off if they r supported by an outside army.. So i took bakra hired mercenary archers kept an eye out south and moved group1 out of baktra towards kophen took that too so now bakria is out of the game.

In the same time as Kophen. Id engaged pahlava in nisa they were all out u c. i hired somthing put it in and moved towards khiva. and they died a turn after bakra.

Ull ask what about AS attacking me in the centre form the south. well as i expected pahlava was besieging asaak when i killed them off so that part was defended for me by them. and Group 3 the one freshly trained in the far north and the remnants of sulek. had arived they stopped AS attack form the southern direction.

and it attacked towards alexandria ariana. and group1 from kophen towards prophthasia.

LIKE so sorry dont have earlier pics!!


Sorry i do not have earlier pictures.

I was a bit lucky As was besieging alexandropolis east of prophthasia but failed to capture it so i didnt have to swing east. and i had 4 new FMs and they did horrible things to AS


Now Phase 3

At this point well rename the armies again. u should have a group in pahlava (group1 'north'). A group in alexanria- ariana (group 2 'centre') and one in prophthasia (group 3 'south'). each one should have 2 FM so use em as hammers and anvils. if not move the FMs towards them to join up but dont stop the momentum. actually ur not sopping till selukia.

Group 1 heads towards asaak then down the coast of teh caspian. group 2 towards apamaia then gabai. group 3 towards the town east of persepolis then persepolis itself

Like so! by the way now u have alot of money. and i still have all my taxes on growth build and im spending all my money on pop growth enhancing buildings.


so u keep moving west group 1 as ull c next will head for ekbatana then. group 2 for susa. what i did next was split group 2 and divide it equally between group 1 and 3 (when group 3 arives from persepolis). one covers susa and one takes phraaspa and protects pases west of ekbatana.



now this folowing image happened outside susa and pleas note this is group 2 is has not been retraianed since it arived from north from gava saka!!! group 1 did at nisa. make sure u micromanage use terain so here i parked on top of a mini hill made the phalanxes walk into that ravine sent my FM one begind them on the right and on on the left. all of them o hold fire. and the minute they turn towards generals behind them. u shoot in the back fomr abaove. if they turn back towards ur HA order HA to sieze fire and FM to open fire in their back. till ur out of arrows then kill em!! with charges.

the arrow marks where most died


and also note no loses in the HA groups. Only FM had loses which will be replaced.


NOw i held here at susa and ekbatana in teh next pix ur 2 battle groups should be were the blue X s are and hold until u can train infantry from susa at least. so u can garison the area without hiring expensive mercs.


when ur ready to move. move with the northern group and harrass them near arabela and went with group 2 in the south to selukia and babylon thll fall quicly . actually i conered the faction leader and the heir came to his help at seleukia so 2 of em and 1 phalanx unit. naturaly they died.

AT this point phase 3 is complete. and ull be swiming in cash. i am getting 12K a turn and after sacking all babylon selukia and arabela ended up with 55k and now im at 260 bc down to 7k. why. I spent allllllll the money on mines. and markets and anything else i developed phraasma as my nomad light HA training centre and ekbatana and selukia as the armoured noble HA training centres. so im still getting alot of money.

Pics tomorrow hopefully


What u do now is prepare for phase 4. raise an army in nisa armoured HA and knock out india. about 6 to 8 noble HA. take ur time. in the west i took 6HA 2FM and went to charax. And the rest were alllll in one group causing mayhem between edessa and karkiothokerta. capture them but dont hold them for now. just sack them and destroy the baracks. why u ask. because my nearest recruitment centre was nisa. and i needed to develop the towns i captured first.

Ill pst the pics as soon as i can.

In terms o politics ptolemaio offered me an alliance. and i sold my map info and trade right to anyone i met. for extra mony even pahlava before it died.

use ur spies well. have on like i do keeping an eye on the sarmations and 3 or 4 in the mess of mountains in the caucases. and since ur holding ur position for now blanket ur border with watch towers anyway.

regards .