so you find yourself in 272 bc....

**bobbin** · 08-13-2009, 20:50

Originally Posted by Ibrahim

however, the distinction between dialects is begining to die out, replaced by a "general american" accent, which is modelled on northern midlands english (western Pennsylvania, Ohio, northern Indiana), with western influence (on is pronunced "an" as opposed to northern midlands "oon" or "o-an*"). and the area round the great lake is also going through a "norther-cities shift", with changes almost as extreme as the great vowel shift.

Interesting, I've always assumed that the american accent came from the dutch. if you've heard dutch people speaking english you'll know what i mean.

*there has to be a better way of representing this

Don't worry i understand what you mean

**Ibrahim** · 08-13-2009, 23:05

Originally Posted by bobbin

Interesting, I've always assumed that the american accent came from the dutch. if you've heard dutch people speaking english you'll know what i mean.

nope-its basically english from the english

its, as I said, more archaic than modern british english, with modifications. general American is considered the "ideal" compramise between the dialects. the only reason its based on Northern midlands is because its the dialect with the most features seen as "compramise". the first dictionaries that show "general american" pronunciation was, not surprisingly, from Ohio, where northern midlands is anchored. the closest accent however to GA is in Nebraska/Iowa, since its the area where eastern dialects meet western ones.

What about the Brooklyn accent, buddy?

well, the brooklyn accent isn't from the great lakes now, is it?

and even it has been mellowing-though at a slower rate.

**moonburn** · 08-13-2009, 23:27

i would be going to some tartessian beach and try to nail some nice casse or sweboz lady

or is that what i have planed for tomorrow ?

as for a living i would make a living out of being a priest of those nice fertility cults that people had around this area of iberia before those dude with dresses came

**Ca Putt** · 08-14-2009, 00:40

i would be going to some tartessian beach and try to nail some nice casse or sweboz lady

:D definitely tomorrow :D

You know what I find interesting? that many people would really like to do the same thing as characters in fiction novels, just more violent and less Idealistic: Introduce advanced Weapons to "primitive" (for all nitpicks: there is a reason I added the "" ) societies(for fun and Profit). In literature the protagonists often just want to support their "good" king/Nobleman/Dictator/whatever at defeating the evil tyrant/dragon/wizard. Here It's far less idealistic. I mean isn't there anything really worth bringing back in time from our age? Is it all just weapons and war? why not smuggle a nuke back in time? and after all, is there a need for "modern" technology in the ancient world? sure a water pump for the fields is always useful so is sanitation and other things that make life longer and less of a fight for survival. If you're keen on technology go to a Greek poleis and build fascinating little things for fun and profit that's probably what I'd do. but to turn 272bc into 2009ad (ok more like 1500 but you get my point) and to conquer the world with Sci-fi Technology no, just as a funny yet feverish dream, not as a real plan. oh and before I forget I'd like to totally out myself as

:
I think I'd really like to live in a world just scratched by human civilization, thinking of being able to drink from almost every river, eating food without the fear of pesticides and hormone extras(I'll spare out the Gene stuff as this is to controversial) and all the other things a tree hugger likes to do, of course at the expense of probably being eaten by a wild Predator or stabbed by an equally wild group of bandits

now don't get me wrong, It's not like I greatly regret being born in this period of time. every period has it's pros and it's cons If I was to travel to the EB time I would enjoy It's pros and would not try to turn it into the time I came from. I just don't reckon it a good idea to import modern technology into the past.

man considering It's not Possible to work time travels(Impossible as in a probability with far to many 0s) and Timeline stuff being nothing but theories about a problem that Is not even possible to have, that's a damn long article I just wrote :D I should go to bed.

Ps afteral It's all just a barbarisation of Ape Talk ;)

**Azathoth** · 08-14-2009, 01:16

drink from almost every river,

Ew, animals poop in those.

There's a game called Darkest of Days coming out soon that includes a section where you can massacre Roman legionnaries with assault rifles and machine guns.

**Blxz** · 08-15-2009, 13:44

@ Ca Putt: Time travel is actually impossible. Time is only a method we use to measure change. So we are in the same world in the same 'time' as everything in history. There is nothing to go back to....we are already there.

And don't bother going on about how 'time' slows down near the speed of light or near black holes etc. Change and the things we use to measure time (vibration of molecules) may slow down...theoretically because we have yet to encounter lightspeed travel or black holes.

But as for Aemilius Paulus, I love your idea. Sure most of it is very hard, and knowing the basic principles doesn't make you able to reproduce something neccessarily, but even if you could impart most of the basics there are many intelligent people (and many unintelligent) who lived in that time with nothing BUT (pseudo)science to do all day. You just need to lay the foundation, convince a few people, LEARN THE LANGUAGE and let them help you out. The technology we have nowadays developed slowly from the basics before that. If you can provide the impetus and a big jump forward and even a few idea's for future research you could have your titanium and nickel and computers and then make a version of Rome:Total war minus all the shitty limitations and historical inaccuracies....which is of course your long term goal in all this I assume?

**Ca Putt** · 08-15-2009, 14:03

I would rather see time as a Dimension like length and width. oh but It is theoretically possible with a Worm hole but no one knows IF they really exist or are just a Theory. and leave alone to be able to control where and when you got to :D . so in other words It's possible on paper but will not happen.

and Time "speed down" would only work(if at all) to travel into the future without aging but that too is not probable to happen in the next few years.(or ever)

sorry if I missed the latest publication about this topic.

don't forget: there is Animal poop(and worse) in drinking water today as well they just don't tell you.

**Andronikos** · 08-15-2009, 16:24

Originally Posted by Ca Putt

now don't get me wrong, It's not like I greatly regret being born in this period of time. every period has it's pros and it's cons If I was to travel to the EB time I would enjoy It's pros and would not try to turn it into the time I came from. I just don't reckon it a good idea to import modern technology into the past.

One of the best features of our age is that if you live in some developed country, neirther authorities, nor social situation force you to live in some way. I you like nature, you can live in some distant place in a quiet cottage, if you wish to make career and money, you can, if you enjoy crowds, you can go to a large city.

I like your idea of seeking some untouched place in that period. But if had chance to travel to past, I would seek people. The eastern part of Hellenic world would be nice as was mentioned before, that interesting clash of cultures. But I would also like to unravel some mysteries (just of curiosity), to see for example building of Stonehenge, destruction of Minoan civilasation, why was Teotihuacan abndoned...

For Hellenic / Roman lovers: in every glass of water that that silly Roman / Hellenic lover drinks is at least 1 molecule that Alexandros / Caesar peed.

(no offence; no flamewar please)

**antisocialmunky** · 08-15-2009, 16:32

Considering that people willingly put worst stuff in their mouths and cups. I don't really think its so bad that food is 100% sanitized. -_-'

**KingDeath** · 08-15-2009, 18:41

I try to smuggle a bunch of acricultural books with me, introduce windmills, new plows
and such stuff. Simply because acriculture was the base of every civilication until the industrial revolution ( except perhaps the italien merchant cities, but even that is debatable ) and therefore the ability to create more food = more people = more wealth = more power.

Then i conquer the world.