so you find yourself in 272 bc....

[Ca Putt]

I would rather see time as a Dimension like length and width. oh but It is theoretically possible with a Worm hole but no one knows IF they really exist or are just a Theory. and leave alone to be able to control where and when you got to :D . so in other words It's possible on paper but will not happen.

and Time "speed down" would only work(if at all) to travel into the future without aging but that too is not probable to happen in the next few years.(or ever)

sorry if I missed the latest publication about this topic.

don't forget: there is Animal poop(and worse) in drinking water today as well they just don't tell you.

[Blxz]

don't forget: there is Animal poop(and worse) in drinking water today as well they just don't tell you.

I am interested in how the chinese managed to make soy sauce out of discarded human hair. Sure its disgusting and unhygenic now, especially when you consider all the menstrual blood they ended up finding in it before it the company maiking it was shut down, but could be a hell of a technology revolution for the future when we are all starving.

The legal tolerances for disgusting things in foods are scarily high, but it hasn't killed us all yet.

Edit: Also, all water in the world has gone through a set of kidneys or 2 before. Actually in any glass of water you are statistically likely to have at least 1 molecule that has been drunk by Julius Caesar in it. And for the Hellene lovers don't worry, there is also a pretty good chance that Megas Alexandros drank at least 1 of those molecules too.

[Centurio Nixalsverdrus]

Edit: Also, all water in the world has gone through a set of kidneys or 2 before. Actually in any glass of water you are statistically likely to have at least 1 molecule that has been drunk by Julius Caesar in it. And for the Hellene lovers don't worry, there is also a pretty good chance that Megas Alexandros drank at least 1 of those molecules too.

I will clone Megas Alexandros with the DNA that I find in the water in my kitchen then. Then I will conquer the present day world exploiting his military genius.

[Aemilius Paulus]

I will clone Megas Alexandros with the DNA that I find in the water in my kitchen then. Then I will conquer the present day world exploiting his military genius.

Too bad most of today's biologists-researchers agree that human chromosomes are so immensely difficult to replicate that cloning humans is either an enterprise for the far future or altogether impossible. I am more inclined to believe the former, as men of learning repudiated many things that now exist. In any case, scientific opinion is infinitely more valuable than mine.

And speaking of the molecule thing, that is horse-sheisse. Poor science there. Too much bloody water on this wet planet fro that to happen. The chances are small. Iskander lived a much shorter life than Caesar. Then again, he drank like ten Makedonians, which would equal about fifty Romans... No wonder the real Greeks looked down on Makedonians. No truly cultured person would do such thing to himself.

I have read more than I care about Alexandros, and most of his aspects, mainly in the end of his life, were quite horrendous and repugnant. He started out quite well though, but the inhumanly cruel and lengthy fighting in Central Asia, with those guerrillas moved something in his head (a Russian expression meaning he went a bit crazy), as much of his entourage noted.

[Azathoth]

don't forget: there is Animal poop(and worse) in drinking water today as well they just don't tell you.

Except it's filtered. And a few parts per trillion of anything don't bother me.

have read more than I care about Alexandros, and most of his aspects, mainly in the end of his life, were quite horrendous and repugnant. He started out quite well though, but the inhumanly cruel and lengthy fighting in Central Asia, with those guerrillas moved something in his head (a Russian expression meaning he went a bit crazy), as much of his entourage noted.

He was just a megalomaniac - nothing crazy about that.

[Aemilius Paulus]

He was just a megalomaniac - nothing crazy about that.

Oh no, it was far, far worse. More like a psychopath with stunningly shocking authoritarianism in the end. Just read any good biography of him. In the Footsteps of Alexander by Michael Wood is a good beginner.

[miotas]

Then again, he drank like ten Makedonians, which would equal about fifty Romans... No wonder the real Greeks looked down on Makedonians. No truly cultured person would do such thing to himself.

Pfft. Who needs culture. I know! Maybe I'd head to makedonia and see how good their grog was.

[Aemilius Paulus]

Maybe I'd head to makedonia and see how good their grog was.

Pfft, got to my native Russia. Vodka is four times more effective, but without the coarse, sickly-sweet taste of the thick Makedonian wine. That stuff was mass-produced for binge-drinking, and not for its taste, so some odd connoisseur would come and savour its "goodness". Plus, after four cups of that unmixed wine, you will no longer care about the taste. Nor about anything else. That is the beauty of alcoholism.

[Centurio Nixalsverdrus]

Pfft, got to my native Russia. Vodka is four times more effective, but without the coarse, sickly-sweet taste of the thick Makedonian wine. That stuff was mass-produced for binge-drinking, and not for its taste, so some odd connoisseur would come and savour its "goodness". Plus, after four cups of that unmixed wine, you will no longer care about the taste. Nor about anything else. That is the beauty of alcoholism.

So you want to make us believe the Russians drink Vodka for its taste?

Anyways, you do know the average dying age for a Russian male is 59 (fifty-nine!)?

[Azathoth]

Oh no, it was far, far worse. More like a psychopath with stunningly shocking authoritarianism in the end. Just read any good biography of him. In the Footsteps of Alexander by Michael Wood is a good beginner.

Really, is it that difficult to tell when I'm joking? Megalomania and delusions of grandeur (godhood) are often a symptom of mental illness (call it psychosis), and with a clown thrown in it's simply inexcusable.

You--> <--Me

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JK lol

[Andronikos]

Iskander lived a much shorter life than Caesar. Then again, he drank like ten Makedonians, which would equal about fifty Romans... No wonder the real Greeks looked down on Makedonians. No truly cultured person would do such thing to himself.

It's hard to be a king.

Were the Makedonian orgias worse than Roman ones during imperial era? You know, vomitoria, gladiators killing each other before feasting audience and much more.

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And speaking of the molecule thing, that is horse-sheisse. Poor science there. Too much bloody water on this wet planet fro that to happen.

Are you speaking about the probability of finding a molecule of water that was drunk by some special person in your glass? Well, it's quite easy math. The number of water molecules on The Earth is approx. 10^45, just calculate the number of molecules drunk by one person during life, number of molecules in one cup and how many cups do you have to drink to find one. The only mumbojumbo there is that you assume that the water has perfectly mixed since being drunk by that person.

[Ibn-Khaldun]

If I would find myself in 272 BC I would ...

.. learn languages(Greek and Latin most likely) first few years in some small town. Then probably would move to Syracuse and warn Archimedes to get out of the city before the Romans come. Once that done I would head to Byzantion and try to take control. Would probably make some reforms and introduce new technologies(not gunpowder). If I can keep mayor powers and barbarian hordes away from the city then I guess after ten-twenty years I would have enough power to start my world conquest!

[Skullheadhq]

If I would find myself in 272 BC I would ...

.. learn languages(Greek and Latin most likely) first few years in some small town. Then probably would move to Syracuse and warn Archimedes to get out of the city before the Romans come. Once that done I would head to Byzantion and try to take control. Would probably make some reforms and introduce new technologies(not gunpowder). If I can keep mayor powers and barbarian hordes away from the city then I guess after ten-twenty years I would have enough power to start my world conquest!

muhahaha, why does everyone targets world conquest, I'd just go to Germania!
Cape Cervesiam!

[bobbin]

And speaking of the molecule thing, that is horse-sheisse. Poor science there. Too much bloody water on this wet planet fro that to happen. The chances are small. Iskander lived a much shorter life than Caesar. Then again, he drank like ten Makedonians, which would equal about fifty Romans... No wonder the real Greeks looked down on Makedonians. No truly cultured person would do such thing to himself.

Are you speaking about the probability of finding a molecule of water that was drunk by some special person in your glass? Well, it's quite easy math. The number of water molecules on The Earth is approx. 10^45, just calculate the number of molecules drunk by one person during life, number of molecules in one cup and how many cups do you have to drink to find one. The only mumbojumbo there is that you assume that the water has perfectly mixed since being drunk by that person.

Believe it or not you would drink 861729 molecules of water a day that were once consumed by Alexander the Great.

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1.36*10^21 litres of water in the world

Alexander lived for 12013 days ( 20 July 356 BC to 10 June 323 BC)

assuming 3 litres per day was consumed on average gives 36039 litres

Then over his lifetime he consumed 3.9065*10^26 molecules (from FM of water = 18g and avagadro's number)

That gives 287243 molecules per litre. Now multiply by average daily consumption (3 litres)

Gives 861729 molecules per day.

[Aemilius Paulus]

Then over his lifetime he consumed 3.9065*10^26 molecules (from FM of water = 18g and avagadro's number)

That gives 287243 molecules per litre. Now multiply by average daily consumption (3 litres)

Gives 861729 molecules per day.

Yes, I know the mathematics too. So what? Too much hydrates in this world anyway. You large numbers may impress a random person, but anyone who sets aside more thought to this will see the folly. And no, I am sure as hell not going to prove my counter-point with a calculation to determine the quantity of molecules on Earth. The scientific notation will render it far too abstract to have a use in a practical, common argument anyway.

[antisocialmunky]

Don't multiply by avagadro's number so you get something meaningful.

[Andros Antonius]

Yes, I know the mathematics too. So what? Too much hydrates in this world anyway. You large numbers may impress a random person, but anyone who sets aside more thought to this will see the folly. And no, I am sure as hell not going to prove my counter-point with a calculation to determine the quantity of molecules on Earth. The scientific notation will render it far too abstract to have a use in a practical, common argument anyway.

Yeah, I have to agree with Paulus. I somehow seriously doubt that all the water people drink on earth has passed through someone else's kidneys. It sounds crazy enough to be true at first but if you think about it, there's way too much water on the planet. And, while I'm not sure about this, but isn't new water even being created at the bottom of the oceans near the magma under the crust? Don't quote me on that, but I remember hearing about it on some show once.

[bobbin]

Yes, I know the mathematics too. So what? Too much hydrates in this world anyway. You large numbers may impress a random person, but anyone who sets aside more thought to this will see the folly. And no, I am sure as hell not going to prove my counter-point with a calculation to determine the quantity of molecules on Earth. The scientific notation will render it far too abstract to have a use in a practical, common argument anyway.

Sheesh...all i was doing was showing that it was statisically possible no need to be rude.

Hydrates? yes there's a lot of them but humans consume them daily so thats not going to stop the molecules getting in, not that it matters though the vast majority of free water in the world stays as free water for a very long time and doesn't get locked up in complexes(which isn't a very long term process in most cases anyway). No idea what your going on about with the quantity of molecules on earth though its not like the water is leaving in any appreciable amount.

The main factor preventing it from getting into your drink is the residence time in the ocean so obviously the number will be smaller but it still would be above 1 molecule per litre. I'm a fourth year chemistry student and spent two of those years studying enviromental chemistry as well so i do have a wee bit of knowledge on the subject

Don't multiply by avagadro's number so you get something meaningful.

Its how you do the calculation, thats like telling someone not to square the c in E=mc^2 as the answers too big.

And, while I'm not sure about this, but isn't new water even being created at the bottom of the oceans near the magma under the crust? Don't quote me on that, but I remember hearing about it on some show once.

Yeah it's not really new though theres a load of water in the mantle so some comes out during eruptions, crust formation etc. It is also taken down into the mantle at subduction zones but these processes are happening on geological time scales so 2000 years wouldn't be enough time to make a significant difference.

[Whatever Scortamareva]

The legal tolerances for disgusting things in foods are scarily high, but it hasn't killed us all yet.

Yeah, I heard they actually make legal restrictions on food toxicity so high that we'll all be killed by acid eroding our internal organs and the chinese will take over.

I know it's true, a scientist (well his title was dr, he may have been a fitness therapist) said so.

EDIT: ah sorry that sounds incredibly over cynical, didn't mean to be offensive, i was having a bad day