I...Agree with the French

**Jolt** · 08-13-2009, 04:13

Originally Posted by a completely inoffensive name

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Should have used this image. Now that you're with the big boys, you need to learn the proper ways to influence people into your side, whatever that may be. Funny images are a way to do that. : D

On-topic, indeed I also believe the Western Chivalry might have influenced us, along with the dose of colonialism and Imperial European superiority which showed that our culture is superior and anything that conflicts with it is by default, bad/wrong.

**AlexanderSextus** · 08-13-2009, 04:52

As a yankee i must continue our historical tradition of siding with the french on this one...

**Fragony** · 08-13-2009, 05:28

There is no need to ban the burka, you have to be recognisable on the street, current laws are fine

finger -> face MUAHAHAHAHAHAHA shambling sleepingbag

disrespect is key.

**Zim** · 08-13-2009, 05:51

Burkinis are pretty silly (well, they're a clever adaptation for those feeling obliged to follow a pretty silly rule anyway) but it seems odd to have a pool ban a type of clothing designed for swimming in. I suppose if they thought they'd lose a lot of business they wouldn't do it. Still odd.

It is kind of funny to see a French pool keeping people out for wearing too much, here it'd likely be for wearing too little (possibly with the same argument of the clothing, or lack thereof, being degrading to women).

As far as the government appointing 32 legislators to spend six months trying to find ways to limit the use of the Burkha....that's interesting. I guess it keeps them from causing the kind of trouble they might in their normal duties, although I'm sure they'll find a way to cause trouble with their current assignment.

**Kralizec** · 08-13-2009, 08:56

I despise islamic dress code, but part of me is uncomfortable with banning them. Strictly speaking they don't harm anyone.

Emerainville Mayor Alain Kelyor said "all this has nothing to do with Islam", adding that the swimsuit was "not an Islamic swimsuit" and that "that type of suit does not exist in the Koran".

I always think it's odd when people do this. You never hear of protestants lecturing catholics on how to venerate saints, or McDonalds refusing to allow jews inside because they're not allowed to eat there according to their religion...

Somebody should try entering a French pool in a diving suit to see if anyone makes a complaint about it.

**InsaneApache** · 08-13-2009, 09:31

Is Burka short for Berkshire Hunt?

**Husar** · 08-13-2009, 12:01

Originally Posted by Fragony

There is no need to ban the burka, you have to be recognisable on the street, current laws are fine

finger -> face MUAHAHAHAHAHAHA shambling sleepingbag

disrespect is key.

Wouldn't that be illegal under the anti-discrimination laws that countries like Norway, Sweden and Germany have?

**Fragony** · 08-13-2009, 12:15

Originally Posted by Husar

Wouldn't that be illegal under the anti-discrimination laws that countries like Norway, Sweden and Germany have?

So what, if they insist on asking more than we are prepared to give humiliate the crap out of them, mock them, redicule them, up to the point that they simply can't take it anymore, and after that laugh them in their face until they start enjoying it and laugh along. Presto.

**Idaho** · 08-13-2009, 14:05

Originally Posted by Fragony

So what, if they insist on asking more than we are prepared to give humiliate the crap out of them, mock them, redicule them, up to the point that they simply can't take it anymore, and after that laugh them in their face until they start enjoying it and laugh along. Presto.

So harrass and abuse people who do things differently to you Fragony. Nice.

**rory_20_uk** · 08-13-2009, 14:22

You're right. Allow everything that a culture somewhere finds OK. Knives under cots? Sure, why not. Dogmatic teaching from a young age? It works abroad, why not here? Never offend others sensibilities, so everyone must take shoes off before entering a house of Mosque. Mustn't let police work offend anyone. Polygamy? Well, rather legalise it than cause any offence. Cutting sheep's throats in the back garden? Well, if their grandfathers did it we can't change them can we? Church bells causing offence? Better stop them too whilst we're at it. The Queen is defender of the Faith. Clearly that's discrimination. Better scrap that too.

**Centurion1** · 08-13-2009, 14:24

What has Afghanistan got to do with this? This is about european law.

Taliban and their anti-female laws.

It is denigrating to women. I don't know if you can revoke the privilege unless you infringe on personal freedoms. The women don't complain because that is their culture but as soon as they gain some freedom from their male oppressors i am sure they won't want to wear the burkha. i mean it doesn't really look very convient, must really mess with your peripherals.

Gosh i felt like a feminist for a minute there.

**Fragony** · 08-13-2009, 14:26

Originally Posted by Idaho

So harrass and abuse people who do things differently to you Fragony. Nice.

I have no time for their imaginary friends, when you are tresspassing meet the dogs. The only way we can make this work is by being perfectly clear, this is us, you are welcome here but this is not your country it is ours and we do things our way. So if some beard demands 5 prayer breaks a day they won't make theirselves very popular. Ask it to me and I will give him a spot where there is absolute certainty that while he is praying to mecca everybody will be looking at his butt. If you can't take a healthy dose of rudeness you definately don't belong in the Netherlands, we don't like to be told what to do.