Last edited by miotas; 08-13-2009 at 09:48.
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Foreign people look and act different and native people don't like it.
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"The republicans will draft your kids, poison the air and water, take away your social security and burn down black churches if elected." Gawain of Orkney
Sure enough but the burkha should be banned, I don't care for the justification their petty beliefs don't offend me, but the burkha is a security-risk pure and simple, you can't see who is under it. As for the rest, couldn't care less.
I can't see the face of people walking in front of me. Is that a security risk?
Should wearing a mask be illegal too?
Howabout false mostaches?
Last edited by Idaho; 08-13-2009 at 10:46.
"The republicans will draft your kids, poison the air and water, take away your social security and burn down black churches if elected." Gawain of Orkney
Nobody said that, that's just silly and avoiding the real issue.
Let's call a spade a spade. It's not about 'safety' or "hygiene'.
No, burka's should be disallowed because they are denigrating for the women wearing them. It's a clothing designed to make women unrecognisable objects and to mark them as inferior beings. Away with the burka, it's a disgrace.
Last edited by Andres; 08-13-2009 at 11:08.
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What gives you the right to determine what a person can wear? We aren't dealing with 5 year olds here, these are grown women who should be able to decide what they want to wear. Treating them like little kids and telling them how to get dressed is denigrating.
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to take this further, we expect to be able to 'read' someones face in order to judge their intentions and assess their trustworthiness, especially with those we don't know personally.
that may not matter in societies where women are effectively chattel, why do you need to trust someone who has no power and influence to affect your life, but i kind of thought we'd got past that in the west.
i'm not sure i'd legislate against a form of clothing, but i'd be damn sure there was no legislation barring discrimination on the trust grounds.
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Person's choice. The person should have the choice not to wear them, not necessarily be "banned". However, it should fit in with clothing standards, such as health or safety regulation.
On the other hand, there are certain biniki's being banned because it is clothing designed to make women sexual objects and mark them as inferior beings for a man's pleasure. Away with the bikini, it's a disgrace.
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Last time I read the Koran it stated women need to cover their breasts. I could not see the bit that said hair.
Assuming that men have no control over their urges, why is it that women suffer in requiring a constant bodyguard and wearing such horrible clothes? Shouldn't men be forced to wear chastity belts and anything else that causes them to all be such cause of concern?
Just like wearing a bikini isn't culturally acceptable on the beaches of Saudi Arabia, these things shouldn't be acceptable over here. Of course, we're not as barbaric to flog the offenders.
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How about this,
Burkha for men
I can't see the face of people walking in front of me. Is that a security risk?
Should wearing a mask be illegal too?
Howabout false mostaches?
Is there a place where a lot of people wear masks, allowing just about any trafficking? A criminal or terrorist can be completely invisible.
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Last edited by Fragony; 08-13-2009 at 11:04.
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