I...Agree with the French

**miotas** · 08-13-2009, 09:47

Originally Posted by Philipvs Vallindervs Calicvla

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/8197917.stm

Something deep inside when Western Chivalric-influenced psyche is offended by the Burkka. A woman does not need to hide her shape and face to be safe from me, or another man when I am around.

I fully support this French policy in general, the only thing I don't like is that we didn't come up with it first.

Surely by telling her what to wear you are patronising her, how does that fit into chivalric thinking? Let them where what they want, why does anyone care what they wear? Or are we still in the childish "all towel heads are terrorists" stage?

**Idaho** · 08-13-2009, 09:56

Foreign people look and act different and native people don't like it.

A real scoop this one

**Fragony** · 08-13-2009, 10:39

Sure enough but the burkha should be banned, I don't care for the justification their petty beliefs don't offend me, but the burkha is a security-risk pure and simple, you can't see who is under it. As for the rest, couldn't care less.

**Idaho** · 08-13-2009, 10:46

I can't see the face of people walking in front of me. Is that a security risk?

Should wearing a mask be illegal too?

Howabout false mostaches?

**Beefy187** · 08-13-2009, 10:51

Just think of it as fashion.
I see nothing wrong if they want to wear them.

**Hosakawa Tito** · 08-13-2009, 10:58

Originally Posted by Idaho

I can't see the face of people walking in front of me. Is that a security risk?

Should wearing a mask be illegal too?

Howabout false mostaches?

OMG, Halloween will be next.

**Andres** · 08-13-2009, 11:07

Originally Posted by Idaho

I can't see the face of people walking in front of me. Is that a security risk?

Should wearing a mask be illegal too?

Howabout false mostaches?

Originally Posted by Hosakawa Tito

OMG, Halloween will be next.

Nobody said that, that's just silly and avoiding the real issue.

Let's call a spade a spade. It's not about 'safety' or "hygiene'.

No, burka's should be disallowed because they are denigrating for the women wearing them. It's a clothing designed to make women unrecognisable objects and to mark them as inferior beings. Away with the burka, it's a disgrace.

**miotas** · 08-13-2009, 11:19

What gives you the right to determine what a person can wear? We aren't dealing with 5 year olds here, these are grown women who should be able to decide what they want to wear. Treating them like little kids and telling them how to get dressed is denigrating.

**Furunculus** · 08-13-2009, 12:40

Originally Posted by Andres

Let's call a spade a spade. It's not about 'safety' or "hygiene'.

No, burka's should be disallowed because they are denigrating for the women wearing them. It's a clothing designed to make women unrecognisable objects and to mark them as inferior beings. Away with the burka, it's a disgrace.

to take this further, we expect to be able to 'read' someones face in order to judge their intentions and assess their trustworthiness, especially with those we don't know personally.

that may not matter in societies where women are effectively chattel, why do you need to trust someone who has no power and influence to affect your life, but i kind of thought we'd got past that in the west.

i'm not sure i'd legislate against a form of clothing, but i'd be damn sure there was no legislation barring discrimination on the trust grounds.

**Beskar** · 08-13-2009, 20:03

Originally Posted by Andres

Nobody said that, that's just silly and avoiding the real issue.

Let's call a spade a spade. It's not about 'safety' or "hygiene'.

No, burka's should be disallowed because they are denigrating for the women wearing them. It's a clothing designed to make women unrecognisable objects and to mark them as inferior beings. Away with the burka, it's a disgrace.

Person's choice. The person should have the choice not to wear them, not necessarily be "banned". However, it should fit in with clothing standards, such as health or safety regulation.

On the other hand, there are certain biniki's being banned because it is clothing designed to make women sexual objects and mark them as inferior beings for a man's pleasure. Away with the bikini, it's a disgrace.

**Fragony** · 08-13-2009, 11:09

Originally Posted by Hosakawa Tito

OMG, Halloween will be next.

Halloween is once a year. These burkhas all look the same and they are a common view(are they? have never seen one), I could organise the greatest heist in history right under your noses, or worse.

**rory_20_uk** · 08-13-2009, 10:52

Last time I read the Koran it stated women need to cover their breasts. I could not see the bit that said hair.

Assuming that men have no control over their urges, why is it that women suffer in requiring a constant bodyguard and wearing such horrible clothes? Shouldn't men be forced to wear chastity belts and anything else that causes them to all be such cause of concern?

Just like wearing a bikini isn't culturally acceptable on the beaches of Saudi Arabia, these things shouldn't be acceptable over here. Of course, we're not as barbaric to flog the offenders.

**Fragony** · 08-13-2009, 10:58

Originally Posted by rory_20_uk

Shouldn't men be forced to wear chastity belts and anything else that causes them to all be such cause of concern?

How about this,

Burkha for men

I can't see the face of people walking in front of me. Is that a security risk?

Should wearing a mask be illegal too?

Howabout false mostaches?

Is there a place where a lot of people wear masks, allowing just about any trafficking? A criminal or terrorist can be completely invisible.
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