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    Quote Originally Posted by rory_20_uk View Post
    Hadiths? Aren't they the extra bits tacked on afterwards? In public I agree that there is not a right to restrict, but there should be in government buildings, offices, schools, hospitals etc.
    So....

    You want the muslim women to stay away from schools, hospital, government buildings, etc?

    Yes, that's a nice way to improve their situation....
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    Quote Originally Posted by HoreTore View Post
    So....

    You want the muslim women to stay away from schools, hospital, government buildings, etc?

    Yes, that's a nice way to improve their situation....
    They can improve their situation by not covering theirselves all up, do we have any obligations to not let them screw up? No cookies for the unwilling. I don't want to ban these clothes, except the burkha, but no wealthfare when you dress up like a pinguin because you have chosen to not to be of any use to us, sort it out yourselve then, just because you were born doesn't mean you deserve to have a life.

    I don't think you need to worry about a would-be-bomber hiding behind a burqa. If a suicide bomber decides to attack, he'll be clean shaven, dressed in the most casual western attire and would attract zero attention.

    In a burkha he can attract zero attention much much easier, if something is going on, good luck finding out who is who where and when.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fragony View Post
    In a burkha he can attract zero attention much much easier, if something is going on, good luck finding out who is who where and when.
    Yes, zero attention. In Afghanistan. Elsewhere, he/she will stick out like a sore thumb. The 9/11 attackers, the London bombers were all dressed in western clothes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rvg View Post
    Yes, zero attention. In Afghanistan. Elsewhere, he/she will stick out like a sore thumb. The 9/11 attackers, the London bombers were all dressed in western clothes.
    Yes, but that is because they had to infiltrate into a certain society, but a society isn't that hard to infiltrate if people are allowed to cover up their faces and all look exactly the same. If I would have any bad intentions I would welcome it like the second comming of the lack of christ.

    This should help http://www.brusselsjournal.com/node/4032

    Great idea. Really.
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    The influence of new cultures has managed to destroy a cherished French tradition too: women no longer bathe topless. They don't feel comfortable anymore. I can not begin to describe my grief over this.
    It's the end of civilisation as we know it. Over to the Octo-squids.
    There are times I wish they’d just ban everything- baccy and beer, burgers and bangers, and all the rest- once and for all. Instead, they creep forward one apparently tiny step at a time. It’s like being executed with a bacon slicer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fragony View Post
    Yes, but that is because they had to infiltrate into a certain society, but a society isn't that hard to infiltrate if people are allowed to cover up their faces and all look exactly the same. If I would have any bad intentions I would welcome it like the second comming of the lack of christ.

    This should help http://www.brusselsjournal.com/node/4032

    Great idea. Really.
    You do realize that in America you are allowed to wear burqas, so your argument is not valid. Terrorists might be fanatics, but they are not idiots. Burqa might conceal your face, but the outfit itself is so controversial that every cop is guaranteed to watch you like a hawk. In fact, if *I* were a terrorist, I'd hire a couple of hookers to put on burqas and walk around as a distraction for cops, while I would meld with the crowd and do whatever it was that I planned on doing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rvg View Post
    You do realize that in America you are allowed to wear burqas, so your argument is not valid. Terrorists might be fanatics, but they are not idiots. Burqa might conceal your face, but the outfit itself is so controversial that every cop is guaranteed to watch you like a hawk. In fact, if *I* were a terrorist, I'd hire a couple of hookers to put on burqas and walk around as a distraction for cops, while I would meld with the crowd and do whatever it was that I planned on doing.
    So when you put yourself in their mind you have already found a use for them, and yet my argument isn't valid?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fragony View Post
    So when you put yourself in their mind you have already found a use for them, and yet my argument isn't valid?
    Of course it isn't valid. You were putting terrorists behind those burqas. I was putting hookers.
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