Monarchists

[KarlXII]

Don't make me dig up grandpa's uniform from the attic.

The European continent isn't large enough for both international dynasties and revolutionary republicanism. The Holy Roman Empire, the German Empire, Austria-Hungary - we've dissolved them all before, and I'll do it again.

Now don't let me remind you Revolutionary Republicanism often falls to good looking and strong worded leaders, some of whom have turned those Republics into Dictatorships or Empires.

[HoreTore]

Now don't let me remind you Revolutionary Republicanism often falls to good looking and strong worded leaders, some of whom have turned those Republics into Dictatorships or Empires.

A dictator is like a monarch, but without the inbreeding. Which makes it far superior to a monarchy.

[rory_20_uk]

A dictator is like a monarch, but without the inbreeding. Which makes it far superior to a monarchy.

Facile statement.

Dictators serve themselves, hence how they got there. Less chance they'll have any interest in the country they've grasped. Monarchs don't always either, but there's a greater chance.

Dictators are often drawn from aristocratic stock or if you're really unlucky the armed forces or worse still some backward tribal dump.

[Viking]

Facile statement.

Dictators serve themselves, hence how they got there. Less chance they'll have any interest in the country they've grasped. Monarchs don't always either, but there's a greater chance.

Dictators are often drawn from aristocratic stock or if you're really unlucky the armed forces or worse still some backward tribal dump.

There is nothing in the definition of dictator or monarch that says that one of should serve himself more than the other, as far as I can see. For example, Hitler's and Mussolini's ideologies weren't personal.

[Vladimir]

There is nothing in the definition of dictator or monarch that says that one of should serve himself more than the other, as far as I can see. For example, Hitler's and Mussolini's ideologies weren't personal.

They used their ideologies for personal gain. That is enough for me.

[Viking]

They used their ideologies for personal gain. That is enough for me.

That's not something that a monarch couldn't or wouldn't have done. It's completely possible for a monarch to be a dictator; and even if he isn't, it shouldn't be a given whom he serves the most; his country or himself. And if you happen sit at the top, rock-solid as an average monarch does it; serving your country and yourself are hardly two mutually exclusive things, are they?

[KarlXII]

That's not something that a monarch couldn't or wouldn't have done. It's completely possible for a monarch to be a dictator; and even if he isn't, it shouldn't be a given whom he serves the most; his country or himself. And if you happen sit at the top, rock-solid as an average monarch does it; serving your country and yourself are hardly two mutually exclusive things, are they?

It's possible, but nowadays it's rare. Unless you're willing to tell me the UK is a despotistic monarchy.

[HoreTore]

They used their ideologies for personal gain. That is enough for me.

Hitler used his ideology for personal gain?

What?

Lenin and Franco would also fit in the category of "dictators for the people". And by people, I mean their particular interest group, of curse, the proletariat and the aristocracy respectively.

[Vladimir]

Hitler used his ideology for personal gain?

What?

Oh that's right. He never took advantage of his office.