Pezhetairoi... Maybe we need larger AOR?

**Cute Wolf** · 08-14-2009, 09:02

Currently, in every game I play with them, I Only train them for the sake of Roleplay. And when my economy is at good position, it was very attempting to train Argyraspidai instead, much because the latter's superriority and Availability to retrain in much wider area (Mikhra Asia). Well, I wnat to ask, why Argyraspidai got much better AOR than Pezhetairoi?

**satalexton** · 08-14-2009, 09:33

I think it's the assumption that you'll settle your veterans....which you can call upon again as an elite cadre in times of need....

**Cute Wolf** · 08-14-2009, 09:59

How about adding certain provinces that eventually got Hysteroi Pezhetairoi as well? OH... that was only for Makedonians.... Seleukid, Baktria, and Ptolemaioi didn't have... (I don't care about Epeiros... My primary line troops as them was Samnites, Illyrian Clubmen, and Renegade Hastati anyway...)

**Andronikos** · 08-14-2009, 10:03

Well as those you have Klerouchoi.

**NeoSpartan** · 08-14-2009, 11:41

Originally Posted by Cute Wolf

...Well, I wnat to ask, why Argyraspidai got much better AOR than Pezhetairoi?

don't know.... Good question.

**Philippus Flavius Homovallumus** · 08-14-2009, 16:49

It's because the classic Pez are ONLY "Macedonians", the Kleuochs and silvershields are recruited from a theoretically wider population base.

As to why to recruit them, they're the cheapest regular pikemen you can get.

**Cute Wolf** · 08-15-2009, 06:41

I Just ask, Well, they are cheapest regulars, but giving easier acess to retrain, I think in "Non Roleplaying" games... Argyraspidai are more worth training...

EDIT: Counting the retraining factor and availability, and compared with their battlefield performance...

**bobbin** · 08-15-2009, 09:01

Originally Posted by Cute Wolf

Currently, in every game I play with them, I Only train them for the sake of Roleplay. And when my economy is at good position, it was very attempting to train Argyraspidai instead, much because the latter's superriority and Availability to retrain in much wider area (Mikhra Asia). Well, I wnat to ask, why Argyraspidai got much better AOR than Pezhetairoi?

Anatolia was heavily settled with military colonies by vetrans who would be the prime recruiting stock of the Argyraspidai.

**Philippus Flavius Homovallumus** · 08-15-2009, 19:23

Originally Posted by Cute Wolf

I Just ask, Well, they are cheapest regulars, but giving easier acess to retrain, I think in "Non Roleplaying" games... Argyraspidai are more worth training...

EDIT: Counting the retraining factor and availability, and compared with their battlefield performance...

Depends how many you use, I've never had a major shortage of Pezhetairoi.

**GenosseGeneral** · 08-15-2009, 22:23

i wouldnt consider them to be cheap (well cheaper than elite phalangitai) but they are little bit better than klerouchoi...
and about rhe AOR: didnt the agyraspidai consisting out of greeks, too? so where are agyraspidai it should be no problem to gather some of their less trained and cheaper companions.

**Philippus Flavius Homovallumus** · 08-15-2009, 23:45

Originally Posted by GenosseGeneral

i wouldnt consider them to be cheap (well cheaper than elite phalangitai) but they are little bit better than klerouchoi...
and about rhe AOR: didnt the agyraspidai consisting out of greeks, too? so where are agyraspidai it should be no problem to gather some of their less trained and cheaper companions.

Depends on the Kingdom, Pezhetairoi are Macedonian, not Greek, and they are MUCH cheaper than the Klerouchs, 200 Mnai, is it? As Macedonia I fought all the way to Babylon, never recruited any Klerouchs; no point.