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    Great Models and city pics!! CA should hire you (but AFTER you finished EB II!!!)

    Some questions to the elections:

    1. as mentiond above, there are thoughts to increase movement for candidates, as it could be very enerving to move your FM anytime to Rome and have due to this a lack of offensive power at the frontier. Can you go in detail here?

    2. Historically, in times of great need the Romans elected a "dictator", could that be integrated? (Maybe with triggers like, so and so many cities besieged, some FM died in battle or lost battles in the last round)

    3. With the end of the 2.century BC and the upcoming of marius and the "Gracchen", it came common to elect people even if they were not in Rome (Sulla and Ceasar as example) Would an implemention screw up the rest? Or maybe implement it after Rome became a superpower?

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    Quote Originally Posted by XSamatan View Post
    1. as mentiond above, there are thoughts to increase movement for candidates, as it could be very enerving to move your FM anytime to Rome and have due to this a lack of offensive power at the frontier. Can you go in detail here?
    There are no plans to increase the movement points of candidates for office. We are considering raising movement points for newly-elected consuls.
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    2. Historically, in times of great need the Romans elected a "dictator", could that be integrated?
    We've considered this, but it was very rare for a dictator to be appointed (they were not elected) to army commands in our time period. There are only three cases from 272 BC to 216 BC: in 249 (A. Atilius Calatinus), 217 (Q. Fabius Maximus), and 216 (M. Iunius Pera). The office was not filled again until Sulla forced the Senate to give it to him in 82 BC. Because of the short term of office, and the fact that the player is very unlikely to find himself in such a desperate position as the Romans were in 217 and 216, there really is very little point to creating such an office in EB2. We still may find a use for it if Italy is under serious threat or during the period of the civil wars.
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    3. With the end of the 2.century BC and the upcoming of marius and the "Gracchen", it came common to elect people even if they were not in Rome (Sulla and Ceasar as example)
    Election of consuls who were not present in Rome was never common. Sulla held the office twice (88 and 80 BC) and was in Rome for elections both times. Caesar was most certainly in Rome when elected to his first term as consul in 59 BC. I'm less certain where he was immediately before his remaining 4 terms (48, 46, 45, and 44 BC), but after returning from Gaul in 48 BC his control over the Roman state was absolute and the fact that he held the office was a formality.

    Consuls were occasionally elected while absent from Rome. However, it happened most often during the 2nd Punic war (with Italy under threat) when a candidate currently leading an army could not be spared without endangering the conduct of the war.

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    And these are only the Camillans. Imagine, imagine...
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    The face looks familiar. Did you use an actor as a facial ref?
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    Quote Originally Posted by antisocialmunky View Post
    The face looks familiar. Did you use an actor as a facial ref?
    No, I did not! ;-) It is the most aged face, and probably the most "roman looking" of the whole Equites.

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    Yes, the Polybian will probably be with less Greek oriented designs. Not sure which one of the two I will like more though, I prefer them both with the legionairies.
    Actually, this is very likely that some of the Polybians still have a greek equipment, especially in the higher "class" soldiers. But in the overhall they will be more "Celtic-Influenced". (Which means I'll have to learn to skin mail chain... )

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hax View Post
    And these are only the Camillans. Imagine, imagine...
    Yes, the Polybian will probably be with less Greek oriented designs. Not sure which one of the two I will like more though, I prefer them both with the legionairies.

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    pretty amazing

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    Quote Originally Posted by Atilius View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by XSamatan View Post
    2. Historically, in times of great need the Romans elected a "dictator", could that be integrated?
    We've considered this, but it was very rare for a dictator to be appointed (they were not elected) to army commands in our time period. There are only three cases from 272 BC to 216 BC: in 249 (A. Atilius Calatinus), 217 (Q. Fabius Maximus), and 216 (M. Iunius Pera). The office was not filled again until Sulla forced the Senate to give it to him in 82 BC. Because of the short term of office, and the fact that the player is very unlikely to find himself in such a desperate position as the Romans were in 217 and 216, there really is very little point to creating such an office in EB2. We still may find a use for it if Italy is under serious threat or during the period of the civil wars.
    I strongly support dictator being available, it was a very important instrument of roman power system. EB is all about alternative history after all. Any succesful invasion in Italy would miss sth special without dictator taking over Rome's power.

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    Quote Originally Posted by darius_d View Post
    I strongly support dictator being available, it was a very important instrument of roman power system. EB is all about alternative history after all. Any succesful invasion in Italy would miss sth special without dictator taking over Rome's power.
    This. It would also be nice to do something for post Marian so the instability of the late republic can be simmed with people trying to seize power. Perhaps if an Ambitious character becomes dictator, you can have an option of not giving it up and causing severe loyalty problems with FMs that have different politics. Would be nice to figure out a way to cause mass rebels like spawning rebel diplomats and giving them 1 billion mnai.
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    Quote Originally Posted by antisocialmunky View Post
    This. It would also be nice to do something for post Marian so the instability of the late republic can be simmed with people trying to seize power. Perhaps if an Ambitious character becomes dictator, you can have an option of not giving it up and causing severe loyalty problems with FMs that have different politics. Would be nice to figure out a way to cause mass rebels like spawning rebel diplomats and giving them 1 billion mnai.
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    Quote Originally Posted by XSamatan View Post
    there are thoughts to increase movement for candidates, as it could be very enerving to move your FM anytime to Rome and have due to this a lack of offensive power at the frontier.
    We could move our FM's straight to rome using the move character cheat. In M2TW you can type "this" instead of "charcter name" to indicate the selected character rather than trying to get the proper name to work.
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    Fulsi mihi sursum, Scotty?
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