Change the effect of heat?

**Iasonis** · 08-19-2009, 05:25

Hello, I was wondering if there is a way to change the effect of heat on stamina. A roman legion can stand in the middle of the sahara right now in full armor and still be fresh 10 mins into the battle.

I remember way back in the original medieval total war desert combat had to have alot of thought put into it. Is it possible to bring that back, for me to edit it somehow?
I want heavy units that just stand there to slowly lose stamina and become exhausted even if they are not moving on desert maps while units wearing no armor can actually recover from not moving.
Exactly like medieval total war original if anyone remembers it. Thanks!

**Iasonis** · 08-19-2009, 05:42

The heat effect is not the solution for the unit either, it just adds fatigue when the unit is doing something. Even with extra heat set from 4( a roman legionary) to 99 if they just rest in the sun it goes back to being fresh. Any idea how to change this?

**Atraphoenix** · 08-19-2009, 13:23

combat bonus in desert, if you add this speciality to the units they fight better like germans that have bonuses when they fight in forests.

**antisocialmunky** · 08-19-2009, 14:03

Why? They'd be suffering because they aren't use to the climate and the sun. I don't think 100,000 sweboz with horribly burnt skin would fight that well.

**Atraphoenix** · 08-19-2009, 14:11

it is hard to explain combat bonuses but you can search them one by one in fact I could not see any difference except combat bonus in forests.

**Cute Wolf** · 08-19-2009, 14:27

Originally Posted by antisocialmunky

Why? They'd be suffering because they aren't use to the climate and the sun. I don't think 100,000 sweboz with horribly burnt skin would fight that well.

Especially wothiz watha......

But really, didn't wear anything at your bare chest certainly did better than wearing heavy lorica hamata.... under the sun... but with combat bonus..... you'll notice them when you fought in normal difficulty, and you play even numbers and similar quality troops... slugging front - to front...

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**Iasonis** · 08-19-2009, 15:01

Im sorry im not being clear. Currently any unit can just sit and rest even in the desert and recover stamina, i want to change it so you cant just sit in the sun all day long and be "fresh"

**abou** · 08-19-2009, 15:38

Originally Posted by antisocialmunky

Why? They'd be suffering because they aren't use to the climate and the sun. I don't think 100,000 sweboz with horribly burnt skin would fight that well.

That's not what Atra said. He stated that, since it is impossible to do what the OP requested, you can give a bonus to units that are native to the desert in the same way as the Germanic units getting a bonus to fighting in woods.

Originally Posted by Iasonis

Im sorry im not being clear. Currently any unit can just sit and rest even in the desert and recover stamina, i want to change it so you cant just sit in the sun all day long and be "fresh"

Unfortunately, this is not possible as far as I know. You can set stamina with a script in custom/historical battles, but not in game (again: as far as I know).

**Iasonis** · 08-20-2009, 07:24

ok thanks, I guess increasing the bonus is ok, since there is no way I could write a script for stamina, thanks for the info.
It is too bad that the workings of the original medieval total war was not kept with rtw, the tactics you had to use were so much more diverse and complicated( I guess thats why they canned it in rtw), did anyone ever play it? You could have a group of light infantry (ghazi infantry!) decimate the most heavy expensive units and cause a rout if they were to roast in the sun long enough. You could always tell the rookie desert fighter bringing in Byzantine infantry and kataphraktoi to a sand battle...

**chenkai11** · 08-20-2009, 10:05

Wow, that sounds impressive...I played it years before. But I already forgot, and I can't go back to it, can't stand the graphics.

**moonburn** · 08-20-2009, 23:18

actually according to the roman descriptions a unit not doing anything in the desert would use it´s shield to provide shadow thus not getting 2 hot or suffering that hard from the desert climate (expecially the descriptions of the triarii that always rested in the back under their shields until they where called to fight)