Favorite phalanx-based faction?

**Jebivjetar** · 08-22-2009, 00:56

Epeiros.

**fleaza** · 08-22-2009, 01:02

fatherland makedonia

**Julius Augustus** · 08-22-2009, 01:54

Makedonia, of course. You get a cool blend of Hellenic and Western units, as well as getting access to Thracian elite rhompheia weilding killers.
Best of all, you be to kill off the Roman swine!
And you can get the satisfaction that can only be attained by debunking myths of Spartan invincibility. Farewell 300!

**J.R.M** · 08-22-2009, 02:14

Julius is right. ecxept what he said about spartans, but oh well Maks rock, seriously Thracian peltasts and others plus some phalanxes (god bless Hysterois) is a pretty KICK ASS army. I alomost forget the Cavalry.

**retep219** · 08-22-2009, 02:33

Personally, Epeiros is my favorite. Plenty of epic battles and fast expansion at the beginning, Phryrus as your king, elephants of course, and a nice Thracian AOR (Although Makedonia has that too, I think?) as well as an excellent starting location that provides for an interesting campaign. They also have more leeway on where you can go next, especially with regards to going west. (If I recall correctly, Makedonia needs to leave Rome alive so they can get March of Time?)

It's an excellent campaign, especially for one who likes to blitz. Elephants are fun, you can fight a large variety of enemies (Makedonian phalanxes, Konion Hellion's hoplites, Arche Seleukeia's Greco-Persian AI spam, the various "barbarian" units of the Thracian rebels and the Aedui of northern Italy, and of course Rome and its armies.) as you fulfill your reasonable victory conditions. Plenty of room for diplomacy, too, you do not HAVE to kill everyone in your way.

**Kevin** · 08-22-2009, 03:00

It seems Epeiros and Macedonia are the favorites so far. Their unit rosters seem really similar except the Epeiros can recruit Elephants, right?

**Megas Methuselah** · 08-22-2009, 03:07

Pontus. For the sheer exotic feeling, if nothing else.

**Ludens** · 08-22-2009, 12:27

Originally Posted by retep219

If I recall correctly, Makedonia needs to leave Rome alive so they can get March of Time?

If they want to get the reformed Pezhetairoi, yes. But Macedon's unit roster is excellent even without those.

Originally Posted by Aemilius Paulus

Just as the Aetolian and Achaean Leagues were when Romans arrived at Greece after the Second Punic War. Still retaining their fighting spirit, unlike the somewhat spoiled Makedonians and thrice more decadent Greeks, who all but abandoned their citizen militias in favour of mercenaries, the Qarthadastim way - which leads to a predictable ending of a loss. Even Hannibal knew this, which is why he chose to rely on regional indigenous recruits, mainly the Iberians, not independent mercenaries.

That's a somewhat simplistic view, although it was shared by many classical writers. Several Greek city states (including Athens and Corinth) still relied partly on citizen militias: they were defeated all the same. The most reliable infantry formations in Carthaginian armies, including those of Hannibal, where the Libyan mercenaries. I am also unsure why Hannibal's Iberians do not qualify as mercenaries. They certainly had no more reason to fight for Carthage than did the Libyans.