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    Default Re: The Phalanx and Moral

    Quote Originally Posted by moonburn View Post
    wich was what nabis made when he reformed the system and became a dictator of sparta

    so it was never a thing of not having enough men but a thing of those men they had didn´t got what they deserved cause something was screwing their meritocracy, as i remember reading towards the ends of sparta their lands where divided by a few families and only 700 sparts could afford the agoge

    another thing that must be pointed out is that the lands of the original 5 villages that formed what would become sparta (thus the 5 epheiros or whatever they where called) could feed dress and equip 9000 strong spartans and when they conquered the lands and cities around them they seemed to have decreased their hability to feed equip and dress spartan soldiers, furthermore the spartan unatraction for trade hindered their hability to aqcuire more wealth that could otherwise be used as a new type of land to be granted to those who earned their rights in the agoge wich nabis again tryed to change but only ended up atracting the kretan pirates that by continous attacks on roman allies got the spartans screwed

    ofc this always happens and it was one of such situations that the grachus brothers tryed to change in rome that got them assassinated
    altough the roman system was better made and the grachus brothers where actually fighting for lands that belonged to the people but where being used by senators to turn a profit wich was then used to enlarge the pockets of such senators instead of benefiting rome

    but this is a good example on why democracy sucks cause the dumb will vote for the fish not for the fishing net/poll (whatever) thus allowing the few smart one´s to get richer while the dumb one´s get to eat a meal and starve the next day
    Nabis reformed because there was nothing left of the old Sparta. It just went through a reform and lost their manpower and ways again.

    Spartans getting rich wouldn't be good, it goes against their original ways which made them a power and Spartans not fully following their laws was what also caused in their eventual downfall.

    Spartans fought in the Phalanx right? =P
    Last edited by Phalanx300; 08-28-2009 at 15:15.

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