Defrauded by Gamersgate!

[Beskar]

Could say "Should have used Steam", however, Lady Frog will be chasing me around with a big hammer wanting to play whack'a'mole with my head.

[Mouzafphaerre]

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Based on what I've read about steam, I would gladly keep you tight and help her Frogship in her common sense enforcement campaign.
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[johnhughthom]

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Based on what I've read about steam, I would gladly keep you tight and help her Frogship in her common sense enforcement campaign.
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Just checked my Steam account, I have thirty three games and I've never had a problem with it.

Froggy had a problem with the one game she bought off Steam, you had a problem with the one game you bought off Gamersgate. So is one any better or worse than the other, or were you both simply unlucky?

To be fair though anything I've read about people having problems from any of the download game services seems to show a complete lack of customer care. I think you were lucky it was a Paradox game and that they were willing to deal with it themselves.

[frogbeastegg]

Why the HELL they use a downloader and don't simply deliver the game surpasses me.[/COLOR]

Because then it would be easy to pirate the games on their service. The only downloadable games shop I know which doesn't do this is Good Old Games ... probably because their games are old and cheap.




My problems with steam are philosphical also. If that weren't the case then I'd have given steam another chance when LucasArts released 'The Dig' and Indy and the Fate of Atlantis' onto the service. It takes too much control out of my hands and forces too many decisions on me which I don't agree with. For one thing, I cannot stand they way it forces me to use the latest patch no matter what and to install said patch before I can play. What if I don't like the contents of that patch? What if I don't have time to patch now and just want a 5 minute game? Tough cheese, that's what.

[Beskar]

For one thing, I cannot stand they way it forces me to use the latest patch no matter what and to install said patch before I can play. What if I don't like the contents of that patch? What if I don't have time to patch now and just want a 5 minute game? Tough cheese, that's what.

I don't see what the issue is here:

1) Turn off automatic patching - It doesn't get patched.
2) It automatically patches when it updates, so basically the 2nd never happens at all.
3) Many on-line games demand the latest patch for the on-line aspect to work.

So unless it is a multi player game where you have to update it to use on-line features (or they don't work), there are no problems what-so-ever.

[frogbeastegg]

1) Turn off automatic patching - It doesn't get patched.

It also refuses to launch the game unless you allow it to patch. Even tried it in offline mode; either you apply all available patches or you aren't allowed to play. All turning off auto-patching does it stop the game patching without your permission.

2) It automatically patches when it updates, so basically the 2nd never happens at all.

Never happens? It happens every time my steam game has updated since I don't have steam running unless I want to play the game tied to it.

3) Many on-line games demand the latest patch for the on-line aspect to work.

I know and understand that but the thing is I don't play MP and don't want to. My singleplayer game shouldn't be affected, it's bad practice. My other games allow SP to be played at any version and force an update if you try to launch MP.

So yes, it's a total non-issue provided I don't want to play my game. ~

I just want to play version 1.0 of my game in singleplayer because I feel that the patches break more than they fix. That's all. I could do it with any other title in my library but not this one because steam will not permit it. I always say that I shall be most happy to be proved wrong; tellingly no one has managed to offer a solution.

[Beskar]

It also refuses to launch the game unless you allow it to patch. Even tried it in offline mode; either you apply all available patches or you aren't allowed to play. All turning off auto-patching does it stop the game patching without your permission.

I never had this problem, though I only had a couple of games where I did this with, because I had mods.

Never happens? It happens every time my steam game has updated since I don't have steam running unless I want to play the game tied to it.

Vast majority of my games are tied to Steam, so in a way, I have a monetary stake in Steam, thanks to many deals on games.

I know and understand that but the thing is I don't play MP and don't want to. My singleplayer game shouldn't be affected, it's bad practice. My other games allow SP to be played at any version and force an update if you try to launch MP.

Ties into the first, I never had this problem.

I just want to play version 1.0 of my game in singleplayer because I feel that the patches break more than they fix. That's all. I could do it with any other title in my library but not this one because steam will not permit it. I always say that I shall be most happy to be proved wrong; tellingly no one has managed to offer a solution.

On the other hand, patches fix a lot more then they break with possibly additional content from general experience. Only exception was E:TW because CA's fault, but then again, that was nothing to do with Steam. Version 1.00 of that kept crashing and version 1.3 still keeps crashing.