Defrauded by Gamersgate!

[Beskar]

For one thing, I cannot stand they way it forces me to use the latest patch no matter what and to install said patch before I can play. What if I don't like the contents of that patch? What if I don't have time to patch now and just want a 5 minute game? Tough cheese, that's what.

I don't see what the issue is here:

1) Turn off automatic patching - It doesn't get patched.
2) It automatically patches when it updates, so basically the 2nd never happens at all.
3) Many on-line games demand the latest patch for the on-line aspect to work.

So unless it is a multi player game where you have to update it to use on-line features (or they don't work), there are no problems what-so-ever.

[frogbeastegg]

1) Turn off automatic patching - It doesn't get patched.

It also refuses to launch the game unless you allow it to patch. Even tried it in offline mode; either you apply all available patches or you aren't allowed to play. All turning off auto-patching does it stop the game patching without your permission.

2) It automatically patches when it updates, so basically the 2nd never happens at all.

Never happens? It happens every time my steam game has updated since I don't have steam running unless I want to play the game tied to it.

3) Many on-line games demand the latest patch for the on-line aspect to work.

I know and understand that but the thing is I don't play MP and don't want to. My singleplayer game shouldn't be affected, it's bad practice. My other games allow SP to be played at any version and force an update if you try to launch MP.

So yes, it's a total non-issue provided I don't want to play my game. ~

I just want to play version 1.0 of my game in singleplayer because I feel that the patches break more than they fix. That's all. I could do it with any other title in my library but not this one because steam will not permit it. I always say that I shall be most happy to be proved wrong; tellingly no one has managed to offer a solution.

[Beskar]

It also refuses to launch the game unless you allow it to patch. Even tried it in offline mode; either you apply all available patches or you aren't allowed to play. All turning off auto-patching does it stop the game patching without your permission.

I never had this problem, though I only had a couple of games where I did this with, because I had mods.

Never happens? It happens every time my steam game has updated since I don't have steam running unless I want to play the game tied to it.

Vast majority of my games are tied to Steam, so in a way, I have a monetary stake in Steam, thanks to many deals on games.

I know and understand that but the thing is I don't play MP and don't want to. My singleplayer game shouldn't be affected, it's bad practice. My other games allow SP to be played at any version and force an update if you try to launch MP.

Ties into the first, I never had this problem.

I just want to play version 1.0 of my game in singleplayer because I feel that the patches break more than they fix. That's all. I could do it with any other title in my library but not this one because steam will not permit it. I always say that I shall be most happy to be proved wrong; tellingly no one has managed to offer a solution.

On the other hand, patches fix a lot more then they break with possibly additional content from general experience. Only exception was E:TW because CA's fault, but then again, that was nothing to do with Steam. Version 1.00 of that kept crashing and version 1.3 still keeps crashing.

[Xiahou]

On the other hand, patches fix a lot more then they break with possibly additional content from general experience. Only exception was E:TW because CA's fault, but then again, that was nothing to do with Steam. Version 1.00 of that kept crashing and version 1.3 still keeps crashing.

That's irrelevant. If you don't want a patch, it shouldn't be shoved down your throat. For online play, it's an obvious necessity that everyone be at the same version. For single-player, there's no call for such heavy handedness.

Should have used SteamImpulse...

I've used GamersGate before and didn't have an issue, but I did not how primitive their billing system seemed- so I'm not at all surprised to hear that it fails some customers.

My personal choice for game purchases is buying physical media that allows for offline installs. If it has to be an online purchase, my first choice is always Impulse.

[Mouzafphaerre]

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Because then it would be easy to pirate the games on their service. The only downloadable games shop I know which doesn't do this is Good Old Games ... probably because their games are old and cheap.

Her Frogship,

With all due respect it does NOT prevent games from getting cя@cκ€d; it just makes the life of honest customers harder and more frustrating. Mount&Blade, for instance, was directly downloaded and when bought activated to function fully. I bought it that way, which was before their deal with Paradox. Hundreds and hundreds of software are distributed with direct download, including the most popular ones. They are compromised, which experience tells us cannot be helped, but they are sold "like cheese and bread", as we say in the Shire Turkish, as well.

Here is a flowchart based upon my experience:

1. Day 1. Mouzafphaerre likes a game and orders it. Mr. Dishonest likes the same game but does something else that shouldn't be mentioned here.
2. Later that day. Mouzafphaerre can't get what he paid for because of technical problems. Mr. Dishonest is very close to getting the game in a dishonest way.
3. Even later that day. Mouzafphaerre contacts the customer support to seek solution. Mr. Dishonest is installing the game.
4. Day 2. Mouzafphaerre hasn't received any response from support. He hasn't received what he paid for and he's pissed off. Mr. Dishonest is playing the game.
5. Day 3. Mouzafphaerre is trying every other way to get support to no avail. Mr. Dishonest is playing the game and bragging about it on the interwebz.
6. Day 6. Mouzafphaerre is finally contacted but another technical problem occurs and he still cannot get his game. Mr. Dishonest is playing the game and bragging about it.
7. Day 7. Mouzafphaerre's further support enquiry is yet again left unanswered. Mr. Dishonest is playing the game and bragging about it.
8. Mouzafphaerre is informed on the virtues of malfunctioning downloaders as opposed to directly downloading the game that he paid for from the dealer's website. Mr. Dishonest is playing the game and bragging about it. He might have even started to get tired of it and be looking for another prey.

Disclaimer: This flowchart is NOT meant to advocate the advantages of the wicked ways of the Mr. Dishonest type. It simply demonstrates a generic case of satisfied uncustomer versus abused customer.

And I'm really, really dissatisfied, to put it in its lightest.
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[Mouzafphaerre]

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It turned out that there was nothing wrong with my router or anything else; it was their server that was BROKEN and not allowing the stupid downloader to connect. Something miraculous has happened and my games are downloading right now. Still, I won't consider this case closed until my game is up and running.
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[Mouzafphaerre]

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I downloaded my games (EU Rome Gold and their free bonus Volvo the Game, which turned out to be crappy btw) and installed them. My connection with Gamersgate has ended forever.
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