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    True. And I do believe that it's ridiculous to prosecute casual users. Gang members and drug dealers are the ones who should be going to jail. I think the correct approach would be to allow it for personal use, but make it illegal to sell it in large amounts.
    Decriminalisation of use is the worst option. It merely ignores use and maintains a massive uncontrolled black market. Legalise it and have society take responsibility for it's own habits rather than sweeping it all under the carpet.
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    Decriminalisation of use is the worst option. It merely ignores use and maintains a massive uncontrolled black market. Legalise it and have society take responsibility for it's own habits rather than sweeping it all under the carpet.
    It takes a whole lot of discipline to allow certain things, do you think it is a good idea for the English because I'm not so sure. Everybody likes to look at us and thinks it's the solution, but we have can handle our liberties, we take things in moderation but the English seem to go for being hammered. From what I have seen the Americans as well we would never get that drunk. Legal marihuana, not that good an idea for you guys says gut.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fragony View Post
    It takes a whole lot of discipline to allow certain things, do you think it is a good idea for the English because I'm not so sure. Everybody likes to look at us and thinks it's the solution, but we have can handle our liberties, we take things in moderation but the English seem to go for being hammered. From what I have seen the Americans as well we would never get that drunk. Legal marihuana, not that good an idea for you guys says gut.
    Yeah right. You dutchies are made of different stuff.

    The British already smoke more weed than you lot. The only difference is that we risk losing our jobs and going to jail. The British have always been a hard drinking, drug taking, unruly lot. That's part of our national character. The British conquered the world with a ruling class with no morals and a working class with no fear. Our gift to you all.

    My point is that legal or illegal makes no difference to levels of consumption. All it does is make sure that there is uncontrolled quality and a vibrant black market run by criminals.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Idaho View Post
    Yeah right. You dutchies are made of different stuff.
    And what if that is just true. Of course we are. Built of different stuff, you were working the land and we just happened to land on the world, we've been over this.

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    And what if that is just true. Of course we are. Built of different stuff, you were working the land and we just happened to land on the world, we've been over this.
    There are a few, relatively small, cultural differences between the dutch and english, and hardly any genetic differences.
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    There are a few, relatively small, cultural differences between the dutch and english, and hardly any genetic differences.
    You English always confuse the lack of inbreeding with genetic differences, island thingie.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fragony View Post
    You English always confuse the lack of inbreeding with genetic differences, island thingie.
    You dutch confuse tulips, cheese and windmills with a real culture
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fragony View Post
    It takes a whole lot of discipline to allow certain things, do you think it is a good idea for the English because I'm not so sure. Everybody likes to look at us and thinks it's the solution, but we have can handle our liberties, we take things in moderation but the English seem to go for being hammered. From what I have seen the Americans as well we would never get that drunk. Legal marihuana, not that good an idea for you guys says gut.
    The great thing about America in this regard is that because we have a federalist system, if Pot were to be legalized on the Federal level, then it would be up to the individual states to decide whether to keep it illegal or not.

    Lets say you are right, that Americans simply cannot handle it. States like California, Oregon, Washington, Colorado, New York, and New Jersey () where use is already pretty much widespread could decide to legalize it, whereas states like Utah, Mississippi, and Tennessee, etc. that might not be able to handle it as well could keep it illegal.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Idaho View Post
    Decriminalisation of use is the worst option. It merely ignores use and maintains a massive uncontrolled black market. Legalise it and have society take responsibility for it's own habits rather than sweeping it all under the carpet.
    Unless there's a difference in terminology here, decriminalisation doesn't mean that it's ignored, just that it's no longer a criminal offence, but a civil offence. This means that there is no gaol time for the offence, but it's still illegal and you will receive a fine. Speeding is something that is a non-criminal offence, this doesn't mean that the law ignores speeding drivers, just that a speeding driver won't go to gaol.

    On topic, I'm not a pot smoker, and I have no interest in smoking pot, but I think that a person should be able to do what ever they want so long as they don't hurt anyone else.

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