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    Quote Originally Posted by Gelatinous Cube View Post
    Philip, who knew you were a fan of the nanny state?

    Pot is harmless, people. Seriously. Fast Food, Cigarettes, Alchohol, Walking Accross a Busy Intersection during your daily commute--these are all more dangerous than Pot. If it was legalized and taxed you would be able to practically balance the national budget for christs' sake.
    Actually, I apply the same measure as on abortion:

    Potential muder = bad

    Potential psychosis = bad

    Ergo, I am against both, just as I was against the CERN in Switzerland, even though there was only a 1:150,000,000 chance it would create a black hole and destroy us all.

    In my view the law should be protective, and having a psychotic break from smoking a spliff is not a risk which should ever be legalised.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Philipvs Vallindervs Calicvla View Post
    Actually, I apply the same measure as on abortion:

    Potential muder = bad

    Potential psychosis = bad

    Ergo, I am against both, just as I was against the CERN in Switzerland, even though there was only a 1:150,000,000 chance it would create a black hole and destroy us all.

    In my view the law should be protective, and having a psychotic break from smoking a spliff is not a risk which should ever be legalised.
    There is a bit of danger in everything one does. I would also wager that bit of danger is quite higher than potenial psychosis from weed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Philipvs Vallindervs Calicvla View Post
    Actually, I apply the same measure as on abortion:

    Potential muder = bad

    Potential psychosis = bad

    Ergo, I am against both, just as I was against the CERN in Switzerland, even though there was only a 1:150,000,000 chance it would create a black hole and destroy us all.

    In my view the law should be protective, and having a psychotic break from smoking a spliff is not a risk which should ever be legalised.
    How about sky diving? Rock climbing? Driving a car? Drinking beer? Eating processed pork products?

    Sorry but that's an untenable position because it doesn't take into account that much of human pleasurable activity contains risk. It is also untenable because making it illegal does nothing to minimise risk but indeed makes it more risky (poor quality of product, lack of choice/information/education, large criminal underworld created).

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    Yeah that is why I usually advice people to avoid Amsterdam. It's there but not there, because it's here, 8 euro a gram 20 meter from my door.
    The general consensus among the growing and knowlegeable smoking community is that you Dutch have ruined most of the original Californian strains created in the 70's and have created hundreds of crappy unstable hybrids and done little to improve or protect original 'land race' strains.
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    If your of the opinion that Cannabis should be kept illegal because of it's 'dangers' then we need to start campaigning about the actual dangerous things out there as well... horrific drugs like alcohol and caffiene (at least in comparison) deadly products such as nuts! (killed more people than cannabis ever will after the first severe allergic reaction to it, there have been many more since...

    In all honesty though unless you intend to ban any and all recreational substances whatsoever then you are probably better promoting cannabis as the healthy alternative... im not saying go out and take cannabis... im just saying take it before the thought of touching such stuff as the anti depressents or alcohol or pretty much about any other drug...

    People have always liked taking thier mind of troubles through mind altering substances... leaving hard drugs like alcohol as the only legal choice is just stupidity let people have weed as the soft legal choice... why should someone who wants to enjoy themselves be left with only the legal choice of a horrorific drug like alcohol ?

    I don't mind the odd drink but i dislike it's effects most of the time and im usually sick the next day for a good few hours, so why should i be legally able to enjoy a hard drug which takes its toll on my system rather than one which i enjoy much more and does not have negative effects on me...

    Unless you plan to ban all substances (caffiene, alcohol, tobacco, apsrin*) and start taking scouts swiss army knifes away and the like its a bit hypocritical to keep cannabis illegal because its a danger...

    *Well considering its potential effects is it really worth the risk to allow people to cure a headache ?, this is what i mean rather than its more serious uses...
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    I prefer it being legal as you know I like an occasional smoke as well, but it isn't as harmless as people think. You can really tell when someone smokes a lot, everything goes slower and they just 'aren't there'

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fragony View Post
    I prefer it being legal as you know I like an occasional smoke as well, but it isn't as harmless as people think. You can really tell when someone smokes a lot, everything goes slower and they just 'aren't there'
    Indeed. With alchohol we seem to be able to tell people about what a healthy and responsible amount is to drink. We are utterly terrified to do the same with other drugs.

    We need to legalise it and then give out advice like:

    "It doesn't suit some people. If it makes you feel bad, don't take it again"
    "It's an occassional treat, not for everyday"
    "If you find yourself wanting it everyday, speak to someone to get help reducing or quitting".

    Instead we get the nonsense of the tabloids saying "it's evil and will kill you to bits and make you crazy". And 2-4 million people in this country smoke and think "what a load of b******s".
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    That, and immediate closure if the sellingpoint, coffeeshops in our case, even thinks about selling it to minors, and teachers should get training so they can pick up signals, empty eyes, passiveness. There is nothing wrong with smoking a little weed, or getting absolutely hammered if that's your thing, but keep it at once or twice a week. Unlike what is often said, weed can be addictive for a certain type of person just like alcohol, enjoy, but enjoy in moderation. Inform inform inform, especially about the combination with alcohol. Don't.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fragony View Post
    That, and immediate closure if the sellingpoint, coffeeshops in our case, even thinks about selling it to minors, and teachers should get training so they can pick up signals, empty eyes, passiveness. There is nothing wrong with smoking a little weed, or getting absolutely hammered if that's your thing, but keep it at once or twice a week. Unlike what is often said, weed can be addictive for a certain type of person just like alcohol, enjoy, but enjoy in moderation. Inform inform inform, especially about the combination with alcohol. Don't.

    It's too expensive to smoke weed more than once or twice a week anyway.

    And even if i had the money, i wouldnt smoke all the time. I might binge and smoke a crapload at one point, but that would just be from the fact that i dont get to smoke as much as i like to, so once i do that, and experience it, i wouldn't have any reason to do that again.

    It's kind of a "forbidden fruit" type of thing. (there's prolly a type of weed called "forbidden fruit" too, heheh)


    And why is it so bad to smoke weed, and get drunk at the same time? I mean, I'd be more worried about the alcohol than the weed in that case anyway. I've crossfaded plenty of times and the bad thing about it is that the weed kinda makes it harder to realize where your limit for alcohol is. It's certainly not IMPOSSIBLE, though, As of Now i'm actually good at it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Philipvs Vallindervs Calicvla View Post
    Ergo, I am against both, just as I was against the CERN in Switzerland, even though there was only a 1:150,000,000 chance it would create a black hole and destroy us all.
    A blackhole given the energy used would have such a small mass that it would evaporate faster then it could add things to its event horizon. It would probably evaporate in a time shorter then the Planck constant... in other words between the digital ticks of our quantum world.

    So even if they did create one it wouldn't be around long enough to vacuum up the earth.

    Otherwise with all the cosmic radiation rampaging through space something would have collided and made star eating minature blackholes. And considering that the heart of a fusion reactor would be an ideal place to find colliding particles, all stars would cease to exist as they create their own mini-me blackholes.
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    edit:

    Was a bit drunk... ignore.
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