The Wehrmacht, History, Myth, Reality

[KrooK]

So your claim about liberation is that the Polish got some people out of prison for a while before they surrendered them back to the Nazis.

Calm Tribesman, calm. Do not mix us with Germans. Poles liberated some deathcamps and few gestapo prisons.

Someone mentioned that carpet bombing of german cities was bad. But ... how many 88 guns
were used to defend german cities instead of fighting on eastern front.
Americans started carpet bombing of cities into Japan when japananese high command ordered to move facilities from industry to normal districts.


Evil - maybe you check when 2nd Reich was oficially announced? I always thought that after french-prussian war (check name FRENCH = PRUSSIAN NOT FRENCH GERMAN). And maybe you tell me when we were so brutal to minorities? I really want to know because I don't remember any situation when official ideology of polish nation was destruction of national minority (action Vistula can't be count due to some reasons). Maybe I'm wrong but Mahomet said "to knowledge go even to China".
Before you wrote I have to tell you something about nowadays Germany.
Into todays Germany some laws from III Reich (yes - from Hitler times) are still in force. Mostly law about minorities. According to them Poles (about 1.500.000 people) are not national minority.

[keravnos]

What really gets me mad is that many would try to make the whole confllict look like a fight between good and evil - a very wrong concept.
I think all armed forces that took part in the war have also taken part in war crimes to some degree more or less.

That's like saying that the 12 year old girl who was raped asked for it.

Nazi Germany was directly responsible for starting WW2 which led to the death of more than 50 million people in Europe alone. It was responsible for destroying the European Jewry, killing off 66% of its people, destroying utterly anything that was standing in its way.

A small excrept from a previous post I made over at TWC...
How about some other specialties of the regime?
-Here's what happened in Greece. I will take one of all the villages torched and destroyed their people slain. In Arta prefecture, August 17 1943, Wermacht's Edelweiss division executed 317 villagers, 172 of them being women, two priests and 13 babies, all less than 1 year old.
-Italian prisoners slaughtered in Kephalonia after Italy surrendered to the Allies and Hitler declared them traitors. 3000 "drowned", 1.135 executed and 25 Slovenes with them along with 5.189 more Italians who were summarily shot.

The list goes on and on, but the truth, documented and explained in detail by Herman Frank Meyer, a German who, looking for his father grave (he had been executed by resistance fighters) stumbled upon the Nazi's reing of terror, which he documented.
http://www.hfmeyer.com/english/publications/index.html

[Evil_Maniac From Mars]

Evil - maybe you check when 2nd Reich was oficially announced? I always thought that after french-prussian war (check name FRENCH = PRUSSIAN NOT FRENCH GERMAN).

Link

Click the link. Scroll down in the box on the right until you see where it says Emperor. Click Wilhelm I. Check which dynasty he belonged to.

The German Empire was an Empire ruled by the Hohenzollern dynasty. I don't know why you denied that.

And maybe you tell me when we were so brutal to minorities? I really want to know because I don't remember any situation when official ideology of polish nation was destruction of national minority (action Vistula can't be count due to some reasons).

So according to you one ethnic cleansing doesn't count, the one on the eastern border. Why don't you try the ones on your western border? Or certain other things that Poland liked to do which are conveniently missed by modern Polish nationalists?

Into todays Germany some laws from III Reich (yes - from Hitler times) are still in force. Mostly law about minorities. According to them Poles (about 1.500.000 people) are not national minority.

Where do you get your information? There aren't even close to one and a half million Poles in Germany. We have more Italians than Poles.