Can’t Find The Imperial Campaign to Play????

[Cassus Belli]

Hi All!
I am new to this forum but I’ve been playing RTW & BI mods ever since this game came out and I never seem to tire of it, whenever I have the time to actually sit down and play, that is.
I currently do have some time to play one my favorite mods (Europa Barbarorum) for my favorite computer game (Rome Total War).

I have Europa Barbarorum v0.81a installed on RTW (v.1.5) with the Barbarian Invasion (v. 1.6) add-on. I use the “-mod:eb -nm -show_err” suffix in my shortcuts and I have had no problem playing the game. After numerous exciting turns, I decided to check and see if there was a later version of this wonderful Mod. To my pleasant surprise I discovered a huge v.1.1 Full install with a v.1.2 Update patch available. I finally found a site that offered both of these downloads and after creating another fresh and clean copy of RTW-BI I installed them.

The game begins to load and I get a screen that tells me that it is Europa Barbarorum v. 1.2.
I click “Single Player” but there is no option to play the “Imperial Campaign.”
All I have to choose from are either “historical” or “custom” battles, but no campaign screen appears from which to choose a faction/tribe to play????

I have checked and the “Imperial Campaign” folder and 49.7 MB of files are in the "EB/Data/World/Maps/ Campaign/Imperial_Campaign” location.
I can see that there are some obvious folder and file differences from the older v0.81a version, and I can’t get this latest version to play at all from the short-cut that the mod installer provided (it keeps asking me for the RTW disk, which is currently in storage in another town), but when I create my own shortcut with the with the
“-mod:eb -nm -show_err” suffix, and use the BI disk which I have with me I can get to the loading screen described above, but have no “Imperial Campaign” option???

Since I don’t have my RTW CD with me I am somewhat limited at present in my ability to trouble shoot. I had assumed that I could play this latest version with the BI add-on disk, but I may be wrong about that.
Is this game exclusive to the RTW v1.5 without any compatibility for BI v1.6?
Or, is there something else that I need to do to make the game recognize the “Imperial_Campaign” folder and files so that I can start this game now?

The site that I downloaded all my files from was: Org FTP
The v.1.1 installer was 786 Mb and the v. 1.2 update patch was 108 Mb, I don’t know if these are lacking something or corrupted, but it was the only website I found that readily had them available. Just in case I may have erred somewhere I created a fresh RTW-BI copy and re-installed again, with the same result for both Europa Barbarorum v.1.1 & 1.2.

I’ve just spent several hours doing all this and searching this forum for a possible solution, but no luck, so far.

I am hopeful that someone out there can help me cut-the-chase and shed some constructive advice on this issue.
If there is no way to play this latest Mod on anything other than RTW, then I’ll just have to wait until I can dig out that disk and try again.
However if there is something else that I can try to let me play it now, while I have the time, using my BI disk, that would be great.

BTW, my PC is using XP, and I have plenty of hard drive and RAM, and I can still play v0.81a without a hitch so far, but I sure would like to try out this latest version, if I can.

I sincerely appreciate any feedback any of you can provide to help me resolve this one way or another.

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Thursday, September 3, 2009

Solution found, refer to the post titled: Problem Finally Solved!!!!

https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showt...12#post2328212

If you are experienceing a similar problem and want to cut the chase to the solution!

...Or you can read through my experience first...

[bovi]

If you only have custom battles and historical battles, you have the MENU for multiplayer. You need to copy the files under sp game edu backup into their respective locations.

[Cassus Belli]

Thank you Bovi, for your response, but I'm not sure if I'm following your chain of thought?

Are you telling me that the installer "routinely" (or sometimes) places the files necessary to load the Imperial Campaign que in the wrong location?
Are you saying that there should be a Single Player "SP" backup file located in an "edu backup folder" and if I can find that folder and those files then all I have to do is find where they should have been located and move them there and all should be fine?
Is that what you are trying to tell me?

I gather from what I think you are saying is that there should be NO incompatibility playing version 1.2 or 1.2 of Europa Barbarorum in RTW with the Barbarian Invasion v.1.6 add-on?

I never play multiplayer with this game, only single player. When I checked the Multiplayer menu all it had options for were "change my CD key and Multiplayer and LAN battles, no campaign or Imperial Campaign was available even in multiplayer as an option.
I haven't checked through every folder and looked at every file of the game, could you perhaps be a little more specific with your assistance and please tell me the location of the files under "sp game edu backup" and if I can find them where exactly would be "their respective locations?"

I will continue to attempt to hunt down these files and figure this out if that is all that I have to do, but if you know the folder where these files are located and where they're supposed be be located to play the Imperial Campaign could you please share that information? I think it might help speed the process up for me.

Thank you for your reply.

[bovi]

Are you telling me that the installer "routinely" (or sometimes) places the files necessary to load the Imperial Campaign que in the wrong location?

No. But you could have accidentally run the multiplayer shortcut with the Trivial Script and then tried to use a custom shortcut to play afterwards, not using the Trivial Script. Then the SP backup files will not have been copied before running the game, and you're still using the multiplayer fileset. I initially believed it would be better not to detail this, but rather tell you more specifically how to fix your problem. I still have this belief, but as you ask, there you go.

Are you saying that there should be a Single Player "SP" backup file located in an "edu backup folder" and if I can find that folder and those files then all I have to do is find where they should have been located and move them there and all should be fine?
Is that what you are trying to tell me?

Yes. Or, more precisely, a set of files. The folder is called sp game edu backup, and I believe it is installed under the EB folder. Each file goes in a separate location.

* Rome.lnt - Goes into the EB\Data\menu folder
* export_descr_unit.txt - Goes into the EB\Data folder.

I gather from what I think you are saying is that there should be NO incompatibility playing version 1.2 or 1.2 of Europa Barbarorum in RTW with the Barbarian Invasion v.1.6 add-on?

This is not what I'm saying. In fact, I can't understand where you see me commenting on BI at all . Anyway, many play EB using the BI executable with no problems. Some cannot even get the game to start when BI is installed.

I never play multiplayer with this game, only single player. When I checked the Multiplayer menu all it had options for were "change my CD key and Multiplayer and LAN battles, no campaign or Imperial Campaign was available even in multiplayer as an option.

So yeah, you've started it in multiplayer mode at least once. The campaign is not meant to be available using the multiplayer fileset.

[Cassus Belli]

Okay, I've been checking this stuff out as best as I can during the interim.
Now that I'm back I'll tell you what I've turned up so far.

I checked out both the "EB/mp game edu backup/" (3 files: Rome.lnt, export_descr_unit.txt, map.rwm)
&
"EB/sp game edu backup/" (appears to have the same 3 files: Rome.lnt, export_descr_unit.txt, map.rwm)

Don't know if the content of these files are complete, or if they are located where they are supposed to be, and if not, where I should move them to. But I'm thinking that you may have been thinking that one of these folders may have been missing (or missing one or more of these files)? and that may have been the cause of the no-show Imperial Campaign in the single player menu que?

Still checking the other folders to see if something shouts out at me that might be useful for either me or anybody who may attempt to help me solve this problem.

Nothing useful in the "EB/Data/Menu" folder.

I found a "MENU_ENGLISH" file located in the "EB/Data/ Text/" folder. It seems to describe how things are supposed to happen. I see where the Single player and EB Imperial campaign lines are located, so if the game was reading this file aand it is where it should be then that is not the problem.
Still nothing that may correlate with a "sp game edu backup" folder or file, no luck yet.

The "EB/Data/Maps/Campaign/Imperial_Campaign" folders and files are there. Don't know if a key file is missing that would let the imperial campaign to show in the menu, though.

Okay, I've checked through all of the folders and files in the "EB/Data" section, now on to Documentation....

Nothing obvious under the "Lighting," "Modesty," "preferences," "presets," or "saves" folders.

4 files under "EB/Validation/" (eb.jar, edtftpj.jar, jzlib-1.0.7.jar, & ebIgnoreList.txt) Not sure if the txt file is accurate but I do see a line that has "campaign" in it.

I clicked on the EB/validateInstall.bat file to see what it might tell me. I already downloaded "Java" earlier because it recommended that I do.
I'm running XP with SP3 but I offered a specific checklist to download for the validation comparison "test" so I don't know if any of the following is relavant to anything.

The Validation check listed the following: an "Exception" in the "main" java.lang.NoClassDefFoundError: europabarbarorum/ValidateInstall
Caused by:
Java.lang.ClassNotFoundException: europabarbarorum/ValidateInstall
at:
Java.net.URLClassLoader$1.run (Unknown Source)
Java.security.AccessController.doPrivileged(Native Method)
Java,net.URLClassLoader.findClass(Unknown Source)
Java.lang.ClassLoader.loadClass(Unknown Source)
sun.misc.Launch$AppClassLoader.loadClass(Unknown Source)
Java.lang.ClassLoader.loadClass(Unknown Source)
Java.lang.ClassLoader.loadClass(Unknown Source)
Java.lang.ClassLoader.loadClassInternal(Unknown Source)

Could not find the main class: europabarbarorum/ValidateInstall.

The ebValidation Results.txt was blank.

I don't know what that string of gobbligook meant, and if it was revelant to the "Imperial Campaign" screen not showing in the menu, or not?

Anyway, I've now looked at every EB folder and file (obviously I haven't read each txt file completely, line by line, but if the title sounded like it might be relevant I gave it a quick, once over.
Still, since I don't really know what I'm looking for, or what to do with it even if I find it, I'm not sure how helpful this exploratory exercise was/or is, unless somebody out there in la-la land can provide me with better insight?

I'm hoping somebody will see this thread and say, ah-yeah! I know what needs to be done and offer me a quick fix here, but I'm afraid I may just be farting in the wind, and the wind is blowing against me....

[Cassus Belli]

Thanks Bovi, for your patience with a novice such as I.
I read your post and did some more checking...

Quote:
Are you telling me that the installer "routinely" (or sometimes) places the files necessary to load the Imperial Campaign que in the wrong location?

No. But you could have accidentally run the multiplayer shortcut with the Trivial Script and then tried to use a custom shortcut to play afterwards, not using the Trivial Script. Then the SP backup files will not have been copied before running the game, and you're still using the multiplayer fileset....

I only clicked on the "Single Player" shortcut, and only after your suggestion I clicked on the multiplayer que from the game menu. Probably the first time I ever did that, and nothing there was familiar to me.

When the "Single Player" shortcut prompted me for the RTW CD, that is when I did the BI suffix thing, and at least was allowed into the game menu, lacking though it was.

I've never used a "Trivial Script" program, never had a need to before, everything usually kicks in fine with the mods I've downloaded, just lucky so far I guess....

In fact that is what was confusing to me... I was looking for a game.exe file file somewhere, and in the properties all I had were links to the "Trivial Script" to evidently start up the game. Yeah, I guess I did check out the properties of both the SP and MP shortcut icons, but I believe that I only clicked on the SP to see if the game would start....

The folder is called sp game edu backup, and I believe it is installed under the EB folder. Each file goes in a separate location.

* Rome.lnt - Goes into the EB\Data\menu folder (file already in this location, as well)
* export_descr_unit.txt - Goes into the EB\Data folder. (file already in this location, as well)

Quote:
I gather from what I think you are saying is that there should be NO incompatibility playing version 1.2 or 1.2 of Europa Barbarorum in RTW with the Barbarian Invasion v.1.6 add-on?

This is not what I'm saying. In fact, I can't understand where you see me commenting on BI at all . Anyway, many play EB using the BI executable with no problems. Some cannot even get the game to start when BI is installed.

No, You made no comment what-so-ever regarding a possible BI clash. As I originally specifically asked regarding compatibility with BI as a possible cause for the problem, and you went right to the "sp game edu backup" files as the most likely root cause, so I made a negative assumption that the BI was likely a non-issue in this case.
Evidently it may still be a possible cause, I guess????

Quote:
I never play multiplayer with this game, only single player. When I checked the Multiplayer menu all it had options for were "change my CD key and Multiplayer and LAN battles, no campaign or Imperial Campaign was available even in multiplayer as an option.

So yeah, you've started it in multiplayer mode at least once. The campaign is not meant to be available using the multiplayer fileset.

Don't know how I could have, and even if I did the first time, I've made three fresh loads with this mod and still have the same problem, so either I'm repeating the same mistake inadvertantly each time, or the only time I clicked on "Multiplayer" mode was from in the game menu, and like said, there was no campaign or Imperial campaign option listed there....

Any other suggestions????

[Tellos Athenaios]

Okay, I've been checking this stuff out as best as I can during the interim.
Now that I'm back I'll tell you what I've turned up so far.

I checked out both the "EB/mp game edu backup/" (3 files: Rome.lnt, export_descr_unit.txt, map.rwm)
&
"EB/sp game edu backup/" (appears to have the same 3 files: Rome.lnt, export_descr_unit.txt, map.rwm)

Don't know if the content of these files are complete, or if they are located where they are supposed to be, and if not, where I should move them to. But I'm thinking that you may have been thinking that one of these folders may have been missing (or missing one or more of these files)? and that may have been the cause of the no-show Imperial Campaign in the single player menu que?

No those are backup files. For the Trivial Script program to use, but if you don't use that...

I found a "MENU_ENGLISH" file located in the "EB/Data/ Text/" folder. It seems to describe how things are supposed to happen. I see where the Single player and EB Imperial campaign lines are located, so if the game was reading this file aand it is where it should be then that is not the problem.
Still nothing that may correlate with a "sp game edu backup" folder or file, no luck yet.

Nope. That is just what the text on the various buttons should read (in English in your case)...

4 files under "EB/Validation/" (eb.jar, edtftpj.jar, jzlib-1.0.7.jar, & ebIgnoreList.txt) Not sure if the txt file is accurate but I do see a line that has "campaign" in it.

The *jar files are libraries for the validation program and the program itself; the *txt file is a list of files *not* checked by the validation program.

I clicked on the EB/validateInstall.bat file to see what it might tell me. I already downloaded "Java" earlier because it recommended that I do.
I'm running XP with SP3 but I offered a specific checklist to download for the validation comparison "test" so I don't know if any of the following is relavant to anything.

The Validation check listed the following: an "Exception" in the "main" java.lang.NoClassDefFoundError: europabarbarorum/ValidateInstall
Caused by:
Java.lang.ClassNotFoundException: europabarbarorum/ValidateInstall
at:
Java.net.URLClassLoader$1.run (Unknown Source)
Java.security.AccessController.doPrivileged(Native Method)
Java,net.URLClassLoader.findClass(Unknown Source)
Java.lang.ClassLoader.loadClass(Unknown Source)
sun.misc.Launch$AppClassLoader.loadClass(Unknown Source)
Java.lang.ClassLoader.loadClass(Unknown Source)
Java.lang.ClassLoader.loadClass(Unknown Source)
Java.lang.ClassLoader.loadClassInternal(Unknown Source)

Could not find the main class: europabarbarorum/ValidateInstall.

The ebValidation Results.txt was blank.

I don't know what that string of gobbligook meant, and if it was revelant to the "Imperial Campaign" screen not showing in the menu, or not?

It means that Java cannot find some piece of the program and bails out.

Anyway, I've now looked at every EB folder and file (obviously I haven't read each txt file completely, line by line, but if the title sounded like it might be relevant I gave it a quick, once over.
Still, since I don't really know what I'm looking for, or what to do with it even if I find it, I'm not sure how helpful this exploratory exercise was/or is, unless somebody out there in la-la land can provide me with better insight?

I'm hoping somebody will see this thread and say, ah-yeah! I know what needs to be done and offer me a quick fix here, but I'm afraid I may just be farting in the wind, and the wind is blowing against me....

Forgive me if you have tried this before, but you could manually *copy* over the sp game edu backup files to their appropriate locations using Bovi's instructions.