Yea, I believe it was the whole Jenkin's ear affair where England negotiated control of the slave trade as a condition of peace.
A whole month especially for you , ain't you luckyapparently its the month for people who are ignorant of history.
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Yea, I believe it was the whole Jenkin's ear affair where England negotiated control of the slave trade as a condition of peace.
A whole month especially for you , ain't you luckyapparently its the month for people who are ignorant of history.
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Hmm, tasty. Once again, par for the course.
Reinvent the British and you get a global finance center, edible food and better service. Reinvent the French and you may just get more Germans.
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Down with dried flowers!
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While we're in self-flagellation mode let us not forget this one. Straight whites only.
This is the first I've heard this story and am speechless....
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Self-flagellation? Excuse me?
I am no racist, and I would never have done anything like this. Why is it "hating myself" when I ridicule my countrymen? What have they got to do with me except being born closer to me than other people?
Still maintain that crying on the pitch should warrant a 3 match ban
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One could say that it is assumed that you and your countrymen/the people in the article are of the same race ("white people race" being the scientific term) and thus by saying what they did wrong you flagellate members of your own race which would mean that all the racists will have a lower opinion of you.
In other words, what comes around goes around, yin and yang or I take my goat.
"Topic is tired and needs a nap." - Tosa Inu
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So... All the people who say that I'm a "self-hater" or whatever when I ridicule my idiot countrymen are racists?
Hmmm....
Still maintain that crying on the pitch should warrant a 3 match ban
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1) You (white guy) criticize another white guy based on his acts. -> critique based on individual behavior -> individualist
2) Person A says white guys always criticize themselves. -> stereotyping based on race -> racist
You gotta wonder how person A got to 2 based on the individual thinking presented in 1.
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DISGUSTING!!!
Sometimes i want to travel back in time to beat people up...
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Yeah. But isn't that partly the issue here? We're casting aspersions on decisions made 60+ years ago, before any of us were born. Decisions no one likely would ever make today. Did Gen. "Beetle" Smith don a white hood and burn crosses in front of Senegalese barracks? No. He excluded them from the photographed historical record of an event so it would look like one group of Europeans/white guys had defeated another group of Europeans/white guys, with no discernable help from non-Europeans.
A silly thing, in hindsight. But I've seen sillier: I've been in military parades that excluded anyone under 5 foot 5" tall, or over 6 foot 1", for the sake of some Sergeant Major's sense of uniformity, unit cohesion be-damned.
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A disgusting thing, even at the time. It was overt, institutionalized racism. If you were truly detached from that day and age, you would have no qualms condemning it, would you? Why would you depict it as just a harmless fad?
In fact, while this was going on in France, the KKK were burning crosses and threatening blacks in the US. The reason they lost any standing with the American public (and were broken up by the IRS) around this time was not their racism, but the fact that they were against the war effort and that more than a few of them sympathised with nazi Germany.
Both the parade story and the Turing story remind us that it was only an amazingly short time ago that such abuses were politically and socially accepted - even among the victors of that war. In that short time we have come a long way.
The bloody trouble is we are only alive when we’re half dead trying to get a paragraph right. - Paul Scott
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I'm pretty sure I did, here, a couple days ago.
Wait. I see the problem. I used the word "silly" to describe the decision, instead of a stronger, more negative adjective. I agree; but I wanted to lead to the next sentence that would rely on "silly":Why would you depict it as just a harmless fad?
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to point up (and deride) the tendancy among career military men (like Gen Smith) to place appearance over substance. Which leads us to the observation that they betray their prejudices by making such decisions based on superficial factors. It's s similar symptom of High Commands that mark "success" as total body count, over actual achievement of objectives. That America's allies let him get away with it points up the dicey mili-political balance at the time, and has been explored by our esteemed Brit and French membership here.
If you and I were making that decision, of course the Senegalese would be included in the parade, right up front, along with the comabt soldiers of every description who'd done the suffering - and they'd march proudly in their war-torn mud-encrusted unforms, not spit-shined garrison outfits that look prettier.
Amen.
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