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    So did Canada offer this same status to millions of blacks who where walloiwng under apartheid? Oh they didn't.

    People say how far we come in race relations and I don't really see it. People like to pay lip service to equality but when push comes to shove they really can't be bothered.

    Do I think Canada is being racist? Maybe, maybe not, but I guarntee you that this case stood out among the millions of other Africans yearning to be free hell it stood out agianst the thousands of Africans with comparable education. All becuase he was a bit paler.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Strike For The South View Post
    So did Canada offer this same status to millions of blacks who where walloiwng under apartheid? Oh they didn't.

    People say how far we come in race relations and I don't really see it. People like to pay lip service to equality but when push comes to shove they really can't be bothered.

    Do I think Canada is being racist? Maybe, maybe not, but I guarntee you that this case stood out among the millions of other Africans yearning to be free hell it stood out agianst the thousands of Africans with comparable education. All becuase he was a bit paler.
    Indeed! You think South Africa is bad? I give you Somalia. You can say the police in South Africa are as indifferent as you want, Somalia doesn't have any of them.

    And yet we want nothing more than to get "those leeching somalians" out of our countries, as quickly and dehumanizing as possible...

    And this guy gets to stay? Shameful.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Strike For The South View Post
    So did Canada offer this same status to millions of blacks who where walloiwng under apartheid? Oh they didn't.

    People say how far we come in race relations and I don't really see it. People like to pay lip service to equality but when push comes to shove they really can't be bothered.

    Do I think Canada is being racist? Maybe, maybe not, but I guarntee you that this case stood out among the millions of other Africans yearning to be free hell it stood out agianst the thousands of Africans with comparable education. All becuase he was a bit paler.
    The contention is that he is prejudiced against because of his race, certainly many whites do feel this.
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    The Conservative government of Canada is appealing the decision of the refugee board to the courts.

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    Heh. Considering Canada itself has practiced apartheid for the past few hundred years (some argue it still does), I wouldn't be, in any way, surprised at the the possibility of hidden racism in this decision.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Megas Methuselah View Post
    Heh. Considering Canada itself has practiced apartheid for the past few hundred years (some argue it still does), I wouldn't be, in any way, surprised at the the possibility of hidden racism in this decision.
    That is very debatable, and indeed I recall some fairly fearsome debates on the subject from when I studied it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Evil_Maniac From Mars View Post
    That is very debatable, and indeed I recall some fairly fearsome debates on the subject from when I studied it.
    For simplicity's sake, I'll use my own area as an example, with a few key dates.

    1874 - the signing of Treaty 4 started; the First Nation peoples were then herded onto their respective reserve lands. Over time, they would be denied the right to leave their respective reserves unless given written permission by a white Indian Agent.

    Despite the treaty, Canada would continually, over the years, steal reserve land. Almost half of a certain Blackfoot reserve was sold to settlers, for example. And when a Blood First Nation refused to sell its land, Canada cut back its funding on that particular nation until they bled white and gave in to the sale. Today, most of these reserves have been rightfully described as having third world country living conditions; a strange thing to hear in one of the most industrialized and developed countries in the world.

    1947 - First Nation and Inuit peoples finally granted formal citizenship.

    1960 - Finally allowed to vote at Federal elections.

    1960's - Residential Schools begin to be closed. First Nation children attending these schools were not allowed to speak their own language or practice their own beliefs. Physical and sexual abuse were notoriously common, and with very poor healthcare, tuberculosis was deadly (with mortality rates as high as 69%). Cultural genocide, anyone? It's a shame so many First Nation peoples today speak only English and know almost nothing about their own culture.

    1985 - First Nation women who married non-native men were given the right to retain treaty status upon the marriage. Previously, this was not so; the woman would lose treaty status, as would her children from the marriage.


    I don't know what else to say, bro. We weren't even allowed to vote at federal elections until 1960, and were actually, by law, forced to remain on our reserves, too. All of this sounds like strange mixture of apartheid, forced assimilation, and cultural genocide to me.

    It certainly left its mark, too. Check out what wikipedia says of contemporary First Nation peoples:

    First Nations peoples face a number of problems to greater degree than Canadians overall. They have higher unemployment, rates of crime and incarceration, substance abuse, health problems, lower levels of education and poverty. Suicide rates are more than twice the sex-specific rate and three times the age-specific rates of non-Aboriginal Canadians.

    Life expectancy at birth is significantly lower for First Nations babies than for babies in the Canadian population as a whole. As of 2001, Indian and Northern Affairs Canada estimates First Nations life expectancy to be 8.1 years shorter for males and 5.5 years shorter for females.

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    Not to try to be funny, but changing Cultures is not always a bad thing. I am glad the tradition of Morris Dancing has died off here.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Megas Methuselah View Post
    For simplicity's sake, I'll use my own area as an example, with a few key dates.

    1874 - the signing of Treaty 4 started; the First Nation peoples were then herded onto their respective reserve lands. Over time, they would be denied the right to leave their respective reserves unless given written permission by a white Indian Agent.

    Despite the treaty, Canada would continually, over the years, steal reserve land. Almost half of a certain Blackfoot reserve was sold to settlers, for example. And when a Blood First Nation refused to sell its land, Canada cut back its funding on that particular nation until they bled white and gave in to the sale. Today, most of these reserves have been rightfully described as having third world country living conditions; a strange thing to hear in one of the most industrialized and developed countries in the world.

    1947 - First Nation and Inuit peoples finally granted formal citizenship.

    1960 - Finally allowed to vote at Federal elections.

    1960's - Residential Schools begin to be closed. First Nation children attending these schools were not allowed to speak their own language or practice their own beliefs. Physical and sexual abuse were notoriously common, and with very poor healthcare, tuberculosis was deadly (with mortality rates as high as 69%). Cultural genocide, anyone? It's a shame so many First Nation peoples today speak only English and know almost nothing about their own culture.

    1985 - First Nation women who married non-native men were given the right to retain treaty status upon the marriage. Previously, this was not so; the woman would lose treaty status, as would her children from the marriage.


    I don't know what else to say, bro. We weren't even allowed to vote at federal elections until 1960, and were actually, by law, forced to remain on our reserves, too. All of this sounds like strange mixture of apartheid, forced assimilation, and cultural genocide to me.

    It certainly left its mark, too. Check out what wikipedia says of contemporary First Nation peoples:
    Terrible yes, but one must note the effort to assimilate the native populations (as evidenced by the loss of treaty status for women upon marriage). This is looks far more like cultural assimilation than aparteid. The effort of the one is to unite the "native" and colonial population by subsuming the former into the latter. You may not like it, and rightly so, but the ultimate aim is equality. The sole aim of Aparteid is to keep the population under-heel as slaves.

    Aparteid usually results from the fear of a vastly more numerous native population, while assimilation is attempted when the native population is much smaller than the colonial one.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Philipvs Vallindervs Calicvla View Post
    The contention is that he is prejudiced against because of his race, certainly many whites do feel this.
    Just like the millions of blacks before '94. It's a bit rich Cananda is now all of a sudden interested.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Strike For The South View Post
    Just like the millions of blacks before '94. It's a bit rich Cananda is now all of a sudden interested.
    It is. It really is.
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