Another problem with Roman names...

[MarcusAureliusAntoninus]

If two characters have the same internal name, the cheats will only work for one of the them until the other is dead. There is a chance that the guy you want to move shares the same internal name with another character (who may even have a different visible name).

[Milovan]

I've had this same problem and it seems that only Romans are affected. The internal names of characters change to their displayed names. For example, I trained a diplomat, "KaesoD Romanvs", and occasionally used character_reset on him. Worked fine until the next day, I load my save, a few turns later type character_reset "KaesoD Romanvs" and he doesn't exist anymore. I try all the other names, none of them work, except Kaeso which resets a family member back in Italy. I got the FM killed in battle just to see what would happen, and "Kaeso Romanvs" worked on the diplomat I know was called KaesoD just 15 turns ago.

Edit: I just realized that I don't actually remember whether I first noticed this before or after I started playing EB with BI Maybe that's the problem... Another thing I noticed is that characters that have earned nicknames such as Africanvs or Macedonicvs pass them down to all their male descendants (or am I supposed to have a dozen FMs called Asiaticvs 50 years down the line).

[MarcusAureliusAntoninus]

Most of the time this problem would be obvious. If you were playing Makedonia and had two guys named "Demetrios Argeades" you wouldn't be surprised that the game only sees one of them. Since the Roman names are hidden, you don't know if this is going to happen before you test them.

Roman honorary names are passed down to children. This is how it was historically (generally) and how it is supposed to work in the game.

[Blxz]

Most of the time this problem would be obvious. If you were playing Makedonia and had two guys named "Demetrios Argeades" you wouldn't be surprised that the game only sees one of them. Since the Roman names are hidden, you don't know if this is going to happen before you test them.

Roman honorary names are passed down to children. This is how it was historically (generally) and how it is supposed to work in the game.

Do their honourary names make up part of their internal name ever? ie. Does Mr KaseoD ever become KaseoD Afrikanvs or something like that?

[Milovan]

Roman honorary names are passed down to children. This is how it was historically (generally) and how it is supposed to work in the game.

Ah, okay then.

Most of the time this problem would be obvious. If you were playing Makedonia and had two guys named "Demetrios Argeades" you wouldn't be surprised that the game only sees one of them. Since the Roman names are hidden, you don't know if this is going to happen before you test them.

Most of the time this problem doesn't exist, it's just the Romans. When I play Baktria, for example, DiodotosB stays DiodotosB after I reload the campaign later. The more I think about this, though, the more I'm convinced that this is some strange feature of BI...


@Blxs: Nope, that's handled by traits, it's just that Mr KaesoD tends to become just Kaeso after reload.

[Cenobite30]

But let's say I have a character with a name nobody else has. Like Kaeso in my current game. In some cases I can type in "Kaeso Romanvs", "KaesoA Romanvs"......"KaesoK Romanvs", all to no effect. Does this mean he is listed under a completelyt different name internally (like, say, "SpvrivsJ Romanvs") even though his outer name is Kaeso?

[Milovan]

No, I looked at names.txt and only Kaeso, KaesoA... KaesoK are displayed as Kaeso.

[Cenobite30]

No, I looked at names.txt and only Kaeso, KaesoA... KaesoK are displayed as Kaeso.

I wonder why some of my guys just don't exist on the console. It's just like those Romans to pull a stunt like this...