Results 1 to 7 of 7

Thread: Schooners

Hybrid View

Previous Post Previous Post   Next Post Next Post
  1. #1
    Member Member Hermann the Lombard's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2003
    Location
    Hoboken NJ
    Posts
    78

    Default Re: Schooners

    Quote Originally Posted by Fisherking View Post
    They have schooner and cutters in the game, they just call them sloops.

    A sloop of the time was the smallest ship rigged vessel and was larger than a brig. Brigs had two masts and sloops had three. So if you like you can think of the sloops as anything but what they have named them.
    AFAIK the sloop of the time was schooner-rigged (or rather gaff-rigged or Bermuda-rigged) rather than ship-rigged, with anywhere from one to three masts, where as you say a brig was two-masted and ship-rigged. However it is fair to say that the term "sloop" was used sloppily (sorry) to describe the purpose of the vessel as much as the description of the vessel. Also, 18 guns would be a *very* heavily-armed sloop: 4 to 12 guns being more common. An example of a sloop is the famous (at the time) HMS Pickle of 6 guns.
    I have a mind like a steel sieve.

  2. #2
    Senior Member Senior Member Fisherking's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2005
    Location
    East of Augusta Vindelicorum
    Posts
    5,575

    Default Re: Schooners

    The point I was trying to make was that a sloop was the smallest "Ship" in the royal navy. Brigs, cutters, ketches, schooners, etc. were not ships but vessels. The term Ship referred to the rigging of a vessel. Vessels of less than 18 guns were not skippered by a captain or even a commander, if memory serves...but were commanded by lieutenants.


    Education: that which reveals to the wise,
    and conceals from the stupid,
    the vast limits of their knowledge.
    Mark Twain

  3. #3
    Member Member Hermann the Lombard's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2003
    Location
    Hoboken NJ
    Posts
    78

    Default Re: Schooners

    Forgive my nit-picking! I mean no criticism. The nomenclature is complex and changed repeatedly before, during, and after the period of the game. In fact it gets truly mind-boggling later when the terminology included "ship sloops" of three masts and "brig sloops" of two masts

    Quote Originally Posted by Fisherking View Post
    The point I was trying to make was that a sloop was the smallest "Ship" in the royal navy. Brigs, cutters, ketches, schooners, etc. were not ships but vessels. The term Ship referred to the rigging of a vessel. Vessels of less than 18 guns were not skippered by a captain or even a commander, if memory serves...but were commanded by lieutenants.
    I have a mind like a steel sieve.

  4. #4

    Default Re: Schooners

    The AUM mod adds cutters...

Bookmarks

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •  
Single Sign On provided by vBSSO