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Originally Posted by Seamus Fermanagh:
What is the applicable Dutch Law.
We don't have any laws against 13 year old sailing around the world, but going to school is mandatory. She is currently investigated by a shrink if she is psychologically up for it. I say let her go since when are we such pussies we need a 13 year old girl to show us What is the applicable Dutch Law.
What about home-schooling? Since that is basically how it would work for the year.
Originally Posted by Beskar:
What about home-schooling? Since that is basically how it would work for the year.
VERBOTEN, school is mandatory until you are 16. But just because you aren't allowed to do something doesn't mean you should do it anyway, we are dutch we are teh law.What about home-schooling? Since that is basically how it would work for the year.
Originally Posted by :
VERBOTEN, school is mandatory until you are 16.
No it isn't.VERBOTEN, school is mandatory until you are 16.
Originally Posted by Tribesman:
No it isn't.
It really is, but exceptions are made all the time.No it isn't.
Into Pantomime season early this year
Originally Posted by :
It really is
Oh no it isn'tIt really is
She may have a good chance of succeeding.
What I worry more is achieving ones life time goal too early.
She will have to keep topping her dream in order to keep her motivation high.
But sailing around the world is some what big enough.
What I worry more is achieving ones life time goal too early.
She will have to keep topping her dream in order to keep her motivation high.
But sailing around the world is some what big enough.
Well, here they say 10 years are mandatory but I've heard of people who stopped school after primary school(4 years), so I have no idea how well it is enforced or how exactly it works. Maybe the dutch system is similarly foolproof. 
Originally Posted by Tribesman:
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Oh no it isn't
Oh yes it isI
Oh no it isn't
http://www.leerplicht.net/
Leerplicht geldt voor kinderen van 5 tot 18 jaar. Vanaf de eerste dag van de maand nadat een kind 5 jaar wordt tot het einde van het schooljaar waarin het 16 jaar is geworden is een kind leerplichtig.
Now I don't have to translate that do I.
Originally Posted by :
Now I don't have to translate that do I.
no you don't, Now I don't have to translate that do I.
Can you translate this instead?
Nederlandse Vereniging voor Thuisonderwijs
Then explain why home school cannot be VERBOTEN
Then again you already know it isn't actually and there are exceptions to mandatory education which means it isn't mandatory and home schooling is not forbidden.
So....Oh no it isn't
Did you completely ignore me? 
Originally Posted by Tribesman:
no you don't,
Can you translate this instead?
Nederlandse Vereniging voor Thuisonderwijs
Then explain why home school cannot be VERBOTEN
Then again you already know it isn't actually and there are exceptions to mandatory education which means it isn't mandatory and home schooling is not forbidden.
So....Oh no it isn't
Yes as I said exceptions are being made, you don't understands how law works here, it's a guide rather than something set in stone. Weed is illegal, prostitution is illegal, homeschooling is illegal. It works both ways, they are trying to 'discourage' her by actually applying the law for a change.no you don't,
Can you translate this instead?
Nederlandse Vereniging voor Thuisonderwijs
Then explain why home school cannot be VERBOTEN
Then again you already know it isn't actually and there are exceptions to mandatory education which means it isn't mandatory and home schooling is not forbidden.
So....Oh no it isn't
Originally Posted by :
you don't understands how law works here
I am afraid it is you who doesn't know your own laws.you don't understands how law works here
Look.
Originally Posted by :
Weed is illegal, prostitution is illegal, homeschooling is illegal.
Weedis illegal, prostitution is legal and home schooling is not illegal.Weed is illegal, prostitution is illegal, homeschooling is illegal.
Not bad going Frag , you only got 2 out of 3 wrong
No I am not wrong, it is allowed under certain circumstances but that is not a rule but the very specifics. It's no but really yes but at least more yes then yes is no and only admittingly yes. I do.
Originally Posted by :
No I am not wrong
No I am not wrong
You claims concerning the law invloved the words "forbidden" and "mandatory", since neither is true then you are wrong. Just like you are wrong about 2 out of the 3 examples of legality you mentioned.
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It's no but really yes but at least more yes then yes is no and only admittingly yes.
So its "no but yes but no but yes but no" It's no but really yes but at least more yes then yes is no and only admittingly yes.
Well Done Frag , you have turned into Vicky Pollard
Don't get the clickey-fingers because of me I heard it really hurts, but still going to school until the age of sixteen is mandatory. And exceptions are being made. Did I say something wrong or is it just you and only you?
That's horrible.
Originally Posted by Fragony:
That's horrible.
Yakety Sax ftw! That's horrible.
Originally Posted by pevergreen:
Did you completely ignore me?
....Hm? I think someone spoke, some hours ago. Not sure though.Did you completely ignore me?
In any case, provided that she is tracked 24/7 along her trip, she shouldn't really be in any danger. Taking into account the publicity of this story already, it shouldn't be hard for her to find sponsors to provide for everything she needs (GPS, Satelite Phone or whatever, a crew to monitor her constantly, etc.), as the sponsors will surely get a share of the publicity she'll earn. That being so, she'll be fine and she should be allowed to sail around the world if its really her wish.
Originally Posted by pevergreen:
Did you completely ignore me?
Did you completely ignore me?
Missed that, sorry. 
She is going to sneak some friends on, have a party, and probably come back pregnant. If I were her dad I would not let her go.
Originally Posted by Crazed Rabbit:
Really?! Good grief, I fear for the British nation. Well, even more than I did before.
CR
Oh come on. There are curfews in american cities...Really?! Good grief, I fear for the British nation. Well, even more than I did before.
CR
Originally Posted by HoreTore:
Oh come on. There are curfews in american cities...
I've heard of them, but could you be a little more specific?Oh come on. There are curfews in american cities...
CR
Originally Posted by Crazed Rabbit:
I've heard of them, but could you be a little more specific?
What do you want specified? Your state have imposed a restriction on innocent people's right to freedom of movement, without the citizens in question having done anything wrong at all. A penalty without a crime, nice.I've heard of them, but could you be a little more specific?
Originally Posted by HoreTore:
What do you want specified? Your state have imposed a restriction on innocent people's right to freedom of movement, without the citizens in question having done anything wrong at all. A penalty without a crime, nice.
Washington state? You've got to be more detailed. As in, links.What do you want specified? Your state have imposed a restriction on innocent people's right to freedom of movement, without the citizens in question having done anything wrong at all. A penalty without a crime, nice.
CR
Originally Posted by Crazed Rabbit:
Washington state? You've got to be more detailed. As in, links.
CR
No, when I say "state", I always refer to "nationstate". So I meant the US. All of it.Washington state? You've got to be more detailed. As in, links.
CR
Here is one linkie.
The wikipedia article is still vague and doesn't specify anything:
CR
Originally Posted by :
Curfew law in the United States is usually a matter of state law, rather than federal law. However, the Constitution guarantees certain rights, which have been applied to the states through the 14th Amendment. Hence, any state's curfew law may be overruled and struck down if, for example, it violates the teen's 1st, 4th or 14th Amendment rights (or the parent's 9th Amendment right to privacy in parenting). Nonetheless, curfews are set by state and local governments. They vary by state and even by county or municipality. In some cities there are curfews for persons under the age of 18.
Furthermore, it's the government doing these things. While bad, governmental actions are removed from the citizenry. The reason I'm appalled at what tribesy said is because it shows a private citizen consciously acting to support a nanny-state. It's the people who are sheepishly supporting the nanny state.Curfew law in the United States is usually a matter of state law, rather than federal law. However, the Constitution guarantees certain rights, which have been applied to the states through the 14th Amendment. Hence, any state's curfew law may be overruled and struck down if, for example, it violates the teen's 1st, 4th or 14th Amendment rights (or the parent's 9th Amendment right to privacy in parenting). Nonetheless, curfews are set by state and local governments. They vary by state and even by county or municipality. In some cities there are curfews for persons under the age of 18.
CR
Originally Posted by Crazed Rabbit:
The wikipedia article is still vague and doesn't specify anything:
I know. And I'm sorry, I don't know the specifics. All I know, is that there are different versions of curfews for minors in many places in the US.The wikipedia article is still vague and doesn't specify anything:
Originally Posted by Crazed Rabbit:
Furthermore, it's the government doing these things. While bad, governmental actions are removed from the citizenry. The reason I'm appalled at what tribesy said is because it shows a private citizen consciously acting to support a nanny-state. It's the people who are sheepishly supporting the nanny state.
Hmmm.....Furthermore, it's the government doing these things. While bad, governmental actions are removed from the citizenry. The reason I'm appalled at what tribesy said is because it shows a private citizen consciously acting to support a nanny-state. It's the people who are sheepishly supporting the nanny state.
Originally Posted by :
Don't get the clickey-fingers because of me I heard it really hurts, but still going to school until the age of sixteen is mandatory.
This was raised to eightteen not to long ago.Don't get the clickey-fingers because of me I heard it really hurts, but still going to school until the age of sixteen is mandatory.
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