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I see no reason why she shouldn't do it. She can go back for an extra year of school if that's a concern. She can be tracked with GPS and be kept in constant link with rescue services and family if necessary. As long as she knows what she's doing, there is no reason why she shouldn't, and certainly no reason for the state to step in. This is a matter for her and her family. My parents would not have let me do this, but I am not her and her parents are not my parents, so it is not my call to make.
Also,if she is experienced, she has one thing other kids don't have. Access to money and it's this money which makes the world go round.
Last edited by Beskar; 09-08-2009 at 21:35.
Days since the Apocalypse began
"We are living in space-age times but there's too many of us thinking with stone-age minds" | How to spot a Humanist
"Men of Quality do not fear Equality." | "Belief doesn't change facts. Facts, if you are reasonable, should change your beliefs."
So all this story really started when she sailed into Lowestoft on a day out and some local busybody got upset that there was a teenager on a boat and reported her to the British social services
Ja Mata, Tosa.
The poorest man may in his cottage bid defiance to all the forces of the Crown. It may be frail; its roof may shake; the wind may blow through it; the storm may enter; the rain may enter; but the King of England cannot enter – all his force dares not cross the threshold of the ruined tenement! - William Pitt the Elder
She was busted before yes, at least she came as far as England at the age of 11.
Last edited by Fragony; 09-08-2009 at 22:17. Reason: @tribes
Completely agree. Let her go. If they accept and plan for the risks, then of course, let her do it. It's a once in a lifetime opportunity to do something so unique, don't ruin the lass's dream!
What is the current record? 15? 16? It'd take a good 9+ months to complete such a trip, maybe she could delay so as to gain more experience first?
Last edited by naut; 09-09-2009 at 15:20.
#Hillary4prism
BD:TW
Some piously affirm: "The truth is such and such. I know! I see!"
And hold that everything depends upon having the “right” religion.
But when one really knows, one has no need of religion. - Mahavyuha Sutra
Freedom necessarily involves risk. - Alan Watts
While my country enshrines the inalienable rights of Life, Liberty, and the Pursuit of Happiness, only the lives of children have been protected on an individual basis through our laws. Unemancipated minors are not deemed to be at "liberty" but the custodial charges of their parents. The pursuit of happiness is rather subjective definitionally, and therefore cannot be truly denied nor promoted by the law-- and there is no way to insure that the pursuit is successful.
If her parents are willing, and are willing to make the necessary arrangements for her education, I don't believe she could be held back from doing this. I would never allow it for my own child, but their child is not mine.
Also, if she is legally, emancipated, she could do this of her own choice and nobody could gainsay it.
What is the applicable Dutch Law or superceding European Union law?
"The only way that has ever been discovered to have a lot of people cooperate together voluntarily is through the free market. And that's why it's so essential to preserving individual freedom.” -- Milton Friedman
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Last edited by Husar; 09-09-2009 at 23:10.
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"Topic is tired and needs a nap." - Tosa Inu
she's 13...which means she doesn´t knowall!
now sit down, shut up and do as you´re told before I go upside your head!
if she wants to kill herself she's free to do so after she turns 18.
"If given the choice to be the shepherd or the sheep... be the wolf"
-Josh Homme
"That's the difference between me and the rest of the world! Happiness isn't good enough for me! I demand euphoria!"
- Calvin
....Hm? I think someone spoke, some hours ago. Not sure though.
In any case, provided that she is tracked 24/7 along her trip, she shouldn't really be in any danger. Taking into account the publicity of this story already, it shouldn't be hard for her to find sponsors to provide for everything she needs (GPS, Satelite Phone or whatever, a crew to monitor her constantly, etc.), as the sponsors will surely get a share of the publicity she'll earn. That being so, she'll be fine and she should be allowed to sail around the world if its really her wish.
BLARGH!
We don't have any laws against 13 year old sailing around the world, but going to school is mandatory. She is currently investigated by a shrink if she is psychologically up for it. I say let her go since when are we such pussies we need a 13 year old girl to show us![]()
What about home-schooling? Since that is basically how it would work for the year.
Days since the Apocalypse began
"We are living in space-age times but there's too many of us thinking with stone-age minds" | How to spot a Humanist
"Men of Quality do not fear Equality." | "Belief doesn't change facts. Facts, if you are reasonable, should change your beliefs."
No it isn't.VERBOTEN, school is mandatory until you are 16.
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