Less Civilized Factions

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I'm with you in this point, Macilrille, and for the rest I don't want to enter the Celts-Weaklings- discussion, because one only has to look to some ancient texts to see that this is not true as a rule.

Just one question that is of interest for me: what makes you sure that the Cimbri and Teutones came from Jutland and were Germanics? Poseidonios searched the case and took them for Celts, Caesar was the first to see them as Germanics as far as I know, but perhaps for a personal reason in combination with his creation of the Rhine as a border and the new feature of the area east of it as "Germania".

I think it's better to be careful and let the case open because it is so difficult for this early time to decide of what culture people were. I personally think (and can of course not prove it) that the Cimbri and Teutones were a mix of people, perhaps some from the north, but mainly Celts from all the regions the trek went on its long way to the south.

To make it not entirely ot, two remarks:
I also have difficulties to play as the "barbarians", I just have the feeling they were not able to create a unified empire that early although they were good fighters.
And I think it is not a shame or arrogant to name some people more civilised (that means just a certain degree of sophisticated organisation with a written and mostly urban culture) than others; it has nothing to do with the worth of the people or culture.