Are wiccans a bunch of dillusionnal people?

[Whacker]

@ Wakizashi

This thread is kinda funny, but where did I say my views were factual and not opinions?

[rvg]

At least they aren't Scientologists.

[Samurai Waki]

@ Wakizashi

This thread is kinda funny, but where did I say my views were factual and not opinions?

Wicca is a made-up 'religion' of which 90% of it's adherents are middle and high school aged kids, mostly girls, who are rebelling against their parents and christian upbringings. The other 10% are people who've made it past high school and still for some reason believe in it. It's a very 'fashionable' 'religion' for younger kids in that age bracket.

[Whacker]

Wicca is a made-up 'religion' of which 90% of it's adherents are middle and high school aged kids, mostly girls, who are rebelling against their parents and christian upbringings. The other 10% are people who've made it past high school and still for some reason believe in it. It's a very 'fashionable' 'religion' for younger kids in that age bracket.

You left out my prefix: "My politically incorrect views:"

Fine, I'll concede I should have worded that intro a bit better. I thought it was pretty much understood as a given that "my views" == "my opinions", and that "politically incorrect" all but indicates that what I'm saying is opinion. Facts aren't "politically incorrect", they just are. I also never stated that was I mentioned was fact, either.

[Kadagar_AV]

I'll go with the touchy-feely option...

Find out what about the religion contributes to her life.

MY gf is christian, and I am very agnostic. We have been able to set that aside though :)

We just have the church-wedding issue left...

Wicca is not worse than any other religion... And some of the followers I met were quite cool :)

Good luck

[Meneldil]

Listen people, it's not about the beliefs per se. On that departement, wiccans seem not nearly as bad as any christian or muslim nutjob.

I'm more worried by the whole 'It's true, it's written in this book' part. I mean, there are even some wiccans who openly say the wiccan mythology is a bunch of fairy tales (ie. Wicca isn't the first religion to have ever been followed by mankin). But she does. And she keeps on pointing me to book written by dillusionnal people who pretend to be historians, but whose arguments have been proved wrong repeatedly.
And I'm here, trying to not be too much of an arrogant prick about her beliefs (I trully think anyone is entitled to worship anything as long as it doesn't trouble the order), and unable to wake up her critical thinking. That's kind of annoying.

The only reason I opened this topic was because I expected someone would know a bit more about Wicca, and point me to books that definitely prove that most of its supposed history has been made up recently.

[Kadagar_AV]

Mate, as stated, logic fails against idiots and religious people...

Your girlfriend unfortunately seems to fall under at least one of the categories. Now, I only base that from how you have depictured her, so I might very well be wrong.

I'm more worried by the whole 'It's true, it's written in this book' part.

What is the difference between that book, and say, the bible?

Christians use the same argument.

[Samurai Waki]

You left out my prefix: "My politically incorrect views:"

Fine, I'll concede I should have worded that intro a bit better. I thought it was pretty much understood as a given that "my views" == "my opinions", and that "politically incorrect" all but indicates that what I'm saying is opinion. Facts aren't "politically incorrect", they just are. I also never stated that was I mentioned was fact, either.

Point Taken.

[Banquo's Ghost]

Gentlemen,

We are getting very close to using "nutjobs", "idiots" and similar insults as synonyms for religious people as a whole.

However one feels about their faith, most people of a religious persuasion are decent chaps who don't deserve the aggressive tone.

Please remember that whilst we may disagree in this forum, we try always to respect.

Thank you kindly.

[miotas]

I'm not saying that any religion is right or wrong but I made a few alterations to your post and I think that you should apply how you feel about the following to this current situation:

I'm more worried by the whole 'It's true, it's written in this book' part. I mean, there are even some christians who openly say the christian mythology is a bunch of fairy tales (ie. The earth wasn't made in 7 days). But she does. And she keeps on pointing me to book written by dillusionnal people who pretend to be historians, but whose arguments have been proved wrong repeatedly.
And I'm here, trying to not be too much of an arrogant prick about her beliefs (I trully think anyone is entitled to worship anything as long as it doesn't trouble the order), and unable to wake up her critical thinking. That's kind of annoying.

[Kadagar_AV]

Gentlemen,

We are getting very close to using "nutjobs", "idiots" and similar insults as synonyms for religious people as a whole.

However one feels about their faith, most people of a religious persuasion are decent chaps who don't deserve the aggressive tone.

Please remember that whilst we may disagree in this forum, we try always to respect.

Thank you kindly.

Your point being that nutjobs and idiots should not be respected?

I respect any human being, and even every living organism...

[Whacker]

"nutjobs", "idiots"

Oh come on. What fun is it if we can't talk frankly about Org moderators?

[Banquo's Ghost]

Oh come on. What fun is it if we can't talk frankly about Org moderators?

Moderators are not a protected species. Open season is from January 3rd to December 22nd. You don't even need a licence.

However, tradition dictates that real sportsmen only use PMs - since in the open, we are really dangerous when wounded.

[Papewaio]

Oh come on. What fun is it if we can't talk frankly about Org moderators?

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