As a Carthaginian, Romans to weak in manpower and too passive

**The General** · 09-13-2009, 15:37

Originally Posted by Macilrille

The AI in EB never invade by sea. However, if you install Alex.exe it does. I have not, for I am not certain of how to go about it.

The AI does naval invasions with BI exe too, search EB Unofficial Modding Projects for information how to get those working.

**Dunadd** · 09-13-2009, 22:12

The General's right - It definitely invades by sea on BI. I played on Alex.exe from 272BC to 245BC - not one sea invasion.

I'm much less far into an EB for BI campaign and the Romans have already invaded Corsica by sea twice and the Epeirots have just landed an army in Sicily (historical accuracy ftw

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**Kevin** · 09-14-2009, 00:15

Yea, I've been playing Alex.exe and I haven't been invaded by ships at all (235BC)..but on BI I heard they do invade but only with 2 or 3 units.

**Azathoth** · 09-13-2009, 22:58

The AI in Alex does invade. It especially likes to ferry troops around, though. I've only been invaded once by sea, but the AI do it to each other all the time - Rome was once captured by a Carthaginian fullstack in a Sweboz game.

**Quintus Fabius** · 09-13-2009, 22:59

Originally Posted by Kevin

Yea, I've been playing Alex.exe and I haven't been invaded by ships at all (235BC)..but on BI I heard they do invade but only with 2 or 3 units.

Odd that you have not. Well, the AI is probably busy elsewhere. In my games, the AI is always launching see invasions (alex.exe). As for BI, yeah, naval invasions are brainless in that .exe.

I love the fact how the posts are mixed up

**seienchin** · 09-13-2009, 23:27

One of the main problems in EB is that many faction cant build ships, because the k.i. rarely builds any military harbours or their are none availlable. THe koinon hellenon in my game is my ally since 70 years and they still have a fullstack on Rhodos. Why? They controll minor asia, but minor asia nearly has no options for a port. WTF?
The seleucs rarely build ships, because they are expensive and their invasions are mainly focussed to the east. Only around egypt you encounter enemy ships sometims because the ptollis got bored.
And of course the useless roman level 1 ships and carthagian weak ships... :(

**Lysimachos** · 09-14-2009, 18:58

Personally, I'm a bit surprised about the discussion regarding too little manpower for the Romani. In my experience in most games they are the faction that amasses the most armies (which are of decent quality, too). Granted, they often don't use them too well.

**Dunadd** · 09-15-2009, 02:15

The first couple of armies the Romans landed in Corsica on my EB on BI game were very small - but after that they landed a big army on it and the Epeirots landed another big army in Sicily - and have another one ready to land.

**The General** · 09-14-2009, 22:13

Originally Posted by Kevin

Yea, I've been playing Alex.exe and I haven't been invaded by ships at all (235BC)..but on BI I heard they do invade but only with 2 or 3 units.

Sometimes the AI does invade with 2-3 units, but more often than not, with half-stacks and larger armies, from what I've seen, for example, with two three-quarters-stacks, or a smaller army of 2-4 units and a larger with 8-15 units.

Originally Posted by Lysimachos

Personally, I'm a bit surprised about the discussion regarding too little manpower for the Romani. In my experience in most games they are the faction that amasses the most armies (which are of decent quality, too). Granted, they often don't use them too well.

Indeed, SPQR is very rich and often sports several fullstacks, but sometimes seems all too passive. There's just something deterring them from crossing the strait into Sicily even if they're at war with the Qarthadastim...

(*Does a theatrical facepalm as he realizes he could've edited this answer into the previous post*)