As a Carthaginian, Romans to weak in manpower and too passive

**AqD** · 09-20-2009, 05:48

Originally Posted by Kevin

Instead, why not make the Romans have like 0 turn recruitment?

It wouldn't help much from my experience (in my mod

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AI only schedules at most 3 units into the queue at the same time, and for some reason the queue is not always in use... The recruitment speed thus depends on the number of settlements, if money and populations are unlimited.

So they cannot be aggressive unless you give them like 20 regions.....

**king of thracia** · 09-20-2009, 06:58

I've nary seen a ship as the Arche Seleukeia under alex. I have the run of the Eastern Mediterranean. Back in the day as Getai under BI iirc I saw fleets with massive armies ravaging the coasts of Italy and Greece. That said, in the AS alex campaign Epirus did reinvade Taras (and Romans reconquered) a while back, and Carthage is now currently in southern Italy.

**antisocialmunky** · 09-20-2009, 14:24

As Romani, the 1st Punic War got pretty bloody with the Carthiginians ferrying full stacks of reformed units into Sicily one turn after another to contain me to Messana as I was iron-manning with high taxes only 10 unit size legions.

Funnily enough they also accepted peace after I took Sicily and Sardinia and Corsica away. :-D

**Zim** · 09-20-2009, 14:30

I've seen a the Romans a bit weak playing as Carthage as well (BI .exe) but I can see how improving them would make them less interesting as a player faction...playing as Rome they have great manpower.

**Scutarii** · 09-21-2009, 18:00

An aggressive Rome doesn't seem to be a problem for me. In all my four games they've steamrollered the Gauls by 35 years and have chased the Quarthadastim out of Iberia by 50.

I'm playing as Getai and as of right now I'm watching 6 almost full stacks march towards me.

I now must face them with Doryphoroi, Drapanai and Komatai (and a smattering of others).

I'm looking forward to the challenge but am annoyed at the recruitment methods of the AI. I find it hard to believe that the most common troops in the Roman army are the Pedites Extraordinarii and yet playing this game you'd assume that was the case.

Are there any mods that are out there doing as much historical accuracy (and game balance be damned) as possible? I'd rather face armies that matched history rather than had the elites forming the bulk of the forces.

**Marcus Ulpius** · 09-22-2009, 06:24

In most games I played, Romans were recruiting armies that had 40% PE and 30% Triarii. I don't know why, because apparently no other faction saturates their armies with elites to such extent.

**Macilrille** · 09-22-2009, 18:56

Originally Posted by Marcus Ulpius

In most games I played, Romans were recruiting armies that had 40% PE and 30% Triarii. I don't know why, because apparently no other faction saturates their armies with elites to such extent.

No the Romans are crazy in that respect, and annoying. But AS is almost as bad in my Roman games with many stacks being 50% leets.