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    I've been playing this game and it's amazing, well done to the creators but I seem to have a problem or two.

    Both arn't in-game (I havn't spotted a bug yet)


    Firstly, I start up Europa Barboreum (this happens in both modes) and it goes to that screen with the title and something in Latin before the intro. It seems to freeze at this point and I have to ctrl-Alt-delete, switch user then go back on, do Ctrl-alt-delete again then switch to Europa Barboreum. I normally have to wait 15 minutes until I do this process, meaning it takes 20-30 just to start the game.

    I doubt this is it.


    Also I tried to install the 1.2 patch (to solve the above mentioned problem and it didn't work.
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    computer specs?

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    maybe you should try and disable the intro-video? go to your eb-folder, find the eb icon, right click->properties. then, i believe, if you add -nm at the end of the target box you disable the into-video. but i am not sure.

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    Why disable the intro video? That's not the problem...(at least I don't think it is). I'll try anyway, thanks.


    mountaingoat, I have a vista if that helps? The game works impecably once I get it to the intro so it's not like I havn't got the graphic requirements...
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    Try it. When in doubt disable the intro-video, is an old Finnish saying.

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    What do you mean by target box?

    If it's the ebicon name then I tried that and it didn't work...
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    In the Rome - total war folder you have installed EB, right-click the EB-icon you would use to play the game(EB). Then press properties. In this menu there is a box called "target". Ofc the name would be something different depending on your windows languages. At the end of the line in the box write -nm.

    I dont know if it works, but I guess it might.

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    Didn't work. Thanks anyway.
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    Hm, then I don't know. It seem to be the only logical reason. What's your RAM? I too have a long start up wait, but not that long. Just long enough to go make some coffee. Are you sure the game freezes? Because I must wait maybe 3min at the page with the Latin and the map in the background, but it never freezes. Try and wait 5min, but I guess you have already done that.

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    I've left it for hours and still it freezes. If I had a weak RAM, the in-game would be poor but in-game it's flawless, no freezes, no CTDs...


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    I've left it for hours and still it freezes. If I had a weak RAM, the in-game would be poor but in-game it's flawless, no freezes, no CTDs...
    Well, look if you have somting running in the backround that might eat up your system resources like Norton AntiVir or something like that. It would help if you can tell the amount of ram you've got in your machine. Defragmentation might also be helping.

    It took about three to five minutes to load the game with XP, 1Gb Ram, and an amd 2,2 CPU
    ( all bought in 2003 ;-) ).


    In this stage the game loads all files, the longer starttime of EB, compared to vanilla or other mods, is a direct consequenze of the sheer amount of data that the game has to load, most notable the 10mb big edb.


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    I remember I've got just under 1 giga...but I've tried 1 hour and still won't work. Can anyone help me about the patch. That might fix it.
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    Default Re: 2 problems I need solving

    Quote Originally Posted by Lovejoy View Post
    Try it. When in doubt disable the intro-video, is an old Finnish saying.


    No no, the finnish saying is in fact, "When in doubt kill Russians and drink Vodka!".
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    Quote Originally Posted by risker View Post
    I remember I've got just under 1 giga..

    not that great when running vista! ... what settings do you run the game on ???

    if it is taking 15 minutes to switch out and back in , then something is chewing up your RAM or CPU or both ... i do not and will not use vista so i cannot give you any more info on what to play around with .
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    Indeed, you should have a minimum of 2 GB RAM if running Vista.
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    What you need to do is play EB on the Alex.exe. There should be instructions in the Unofficial Modding Project section. It made my computer go from taking 15 minutes to start EB to about two. I also cleaned up a lot of crap on my harddrive so try doing that too...

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    Thanks Kevin , how do you do that please?

    It turns out you guys are right, eventually it gets to the intro...
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    I remember I've got just under 1 giga...
    I's the ram together with Vista ...


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    No clue



    Does anyone know where the Unofficial Modding Project is that Kevin refered to is?
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    I run EB on Vista and I haven't had any problems, so I don't think that's the issue. Your RAM shortage is almost certainly contributing to the problem though. It really needs 2 GB to function properly, and if you have a motherboard that can hold the 4 GB maximum that Vista can support I recommend buying more RAM ASAP.

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    2GB is the minimum recommended. 4GB if you want to stretch it to the limit. Also buy a decent video card.

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    98% of problems regarding games can be solved with more RAM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by risker View Post
    No clue



    Does anyone know where the Unofficial Modding Project is that Kevin refered to is?

    https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?t=94861

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    Thanks, mountain goat.


    You guys are right, I need more RAM but I might as well buy a new PC my one is soo bad...
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    Specs? You might have a decent PC that just has really bad RAM.

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    Ok I think is it (I had to go back to my post history to figure out it was Dxdiag.


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    System Information
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    Time of this report: 3/27/2009, 23:22:53
    Machine name: ******-******-PC
    Operating System: Windows Vista™ Home Basic (6.0, Build 6001) Service Pack 1 (6001.vistasp1_gdr.080917-1612)
    Language: French (Regional Setting: French)
    System Manufacturer: HP-Pavilion
    System Model: RZ576AA-B14 a6020.be
    BIOS: Phoenix - AwardBIOS v6.00PG
    Processor: AMD Athlon(tm) 64 Processor 3800+, ~2.4GHz
    Memory: 894MB RAM
    Page File: 1299MB used, 1014MB available
    Windows Dir: C:\Windows
    DirectX Version: DirectX 10
    DX Setup Parameters: Not found
    DxDiag Version: 6.00.6001.18000 32bit Unicode

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    DxDiag Notes
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    Display Tab 1: No problems found.
    Sound Tab 1: No problems found.
    Sound Tab 2: No problems found.
    Input Tab: No problems found.

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    DirectX Debug Levels
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    Direct3D: 0/4 (retail)
    DirectDraw: 0/4 (retail)
    DirectInput: 0/5 (retail)
    DirectMusic: 0/5 (retail)
    DirectPlay: 0/9 (retail)
    DirectSound: 0/5 (retail)
    DirectShow: 0/6 (retail)

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    Display Devices
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    Card name: NVIDIA GeForce 6150SE nForce 430
    Manufacturer: NVIDIA
    Chip type: GeForce 6150SE nForce 430
    DAC type: Integrated RAMDAC
    Device Key: Enum\PCI\VEN_10DE&DEV_03D0&SUBSYS_2A5A103C&REV_A2
    Display Memory: 312 MB
    Dedicated Memory: 122 MB
    Shared Memory: 190 MB
    Current Mode: 1024 x 768 (32 bit) (60Hz)
    Monitor: Generic PnP Monitor
    Driver Name: nvd3dum.dll,nvwgf2um.dll
    Driver Version: 7.15.0011.8208 (English)
    DDI Version: 10
    Driver Attributes: Final Retail
    Driver Date/Size: 2/18/2009 14:44:00, 6082560 bytes
    WHQL Logo'd: Yes
    WHQL Date Stamp:
    Device Identifier: {D7B71E3E-4090-11CF-9C53-510A02C2CA35}
    Vendor ID: 0x10DE
    Device ID: 0x03D0
    SubSys ID: 0x2A5A103C
    Revision ID: 0x00A2
    Revision ID: 0x00A2
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    My graphics card is an absolute shambles as is my RAM....does anyone know how to get useless RAM of like Kevin says???
    Last edited by risker; 09-14-2009 at 20:19. Reason: Giving name of PC can sometimes be suicidal....
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    I've heard that RAM is perhaps the cheapest thing you can upgrade on your computer. Try Newegg. You can also find some at your local BestBuy or computer store.

    As for your graphics card... I'm not one to judge this, but it appears as though you have a dedicated GPU, however low-end it may be. Apparently, it would still be better than a high-end internal graphics card (Intel uses a lot of these).
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    You need more RAM. Anyone who thinks they can run Vista with less than 2 Gig of Ram deserves a smack around the ears. Your graphics card is old, but it should be fine for EB (Maybe not EBII though), so you may want to replace that in the enar future. However, your primary concern should be RAM, and getting more of it. Remember to check what type of RAM you use, so you don't splash out £30 only to find the damn RAM doesn't fit (Trust me, I've been there >.<)

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    where abouts do you live ? you can get a decent rig for gaming for fairly cheap ( depends how much cash u have spare ) . you could buy it piece by piece and build it.

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    I am using XP, a month ago, I am playing EB with 512mb ram. Starting screen is 5 mins or more, ai turn 1min30secs to 2min. after 2 hours of playing, slows down more, can only play on large unit smoothly. battle loading 3-5 mins, playing after few battles slows down to 10mins.

    Then I finally got a 2 gigs ram...

    It's just felt like you used to drive a ordinary sedan top speed of 100kph, then suddenly you are driving a Ferrari F1 at 300kph top speed.

    I am playing EB with the speed like I am just playing RTW vanilla.
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