Aedui or Arverni

**Fluvius Camillus** · 09-29-2009, 22:11

Originally Posted by anubis88

Yeah, when i was deciding with which one of the two should i pick, i picked the Aedui because their Solduros IMO look much better than the Arverni ones.

Tough call, played with both, tried to roleplay as much as possible ( not taking too much provinces), i had a game where at the year 170BC i had with the Aedui only 5 provinces! It took really huge work to remain alive with such a limited income. But it was fun.

I'm not such a passive person myself, how can you still find it entertaining when you are probably fighting streams of Romani fullstacks? Don't get me wrong, I know everyone enjoys EB in their own way, and I'm glad to hear you enjoy this awesome mod, but I can't just seem to find it fun fighting full stack after full stack

Or am I completely wrong here about your campaign?

~Fluvius

**anubis88** · 09-29-2009, 22:29

Originally Posted by Fluvius Camillus

I'm not such a passive person myself, how can you still find it entertaining when you are probably fighting streams of Romani fullstacks? Don't get me wrong, I know everyone enjoys EB in their own way, and I'm glad to hear you enjoy this awesome mod, but I can't just seem to find it fun fighting full stack after full stack

Or am I completely wrong here about your campaign?

~Fluvius

Heh, it was one of my favourite campaigns. I did miracles without the use of Force Diplomacy. A protectorate with the romas (by the Arverni) made the at ceasfire with me, and after that we agreed to an alliance once the romans backstabbed them. The Arverni had the most borders with the romans, and once they were in trouble, i helped them out. And the NEVER betrayed me! I was just waiting for this to happen every other turn for the first ten years, but after that i stopped worrying. It was kinda like they were under my protectorate, because i helped them survive, but they did give the Romans a few painfull defeats. My greatest enemys became thus the Sweboz, and once it becam stack after stack i just stopped playing.

**Kevin** · 09-30-2009, 06:34

Originally Posted by Frontline1944

Hmm, I much prefer the looks of the Aedui units, particularly that of the Solduros.

And it seems as if the Arveni Neitos have a much smaller shield than those of the Aedui. What is the reasoning behind this?

Huh, I didn't notice that but you're right.

Still, they have the same shield value right?

Oh and I prefer Aedui skins over the Arverni most of the time except the Arverni Neitos and Axemen look better. Were they historically blue ?

**Epimetheus** · 09-30-2009, 07:02

I think the shield difference is only in the unit card. I'm pretty sure they're the same size on the battlefield.

**IrishHitman** · 10-01-2009, 20:05

How come my campaigns never have hilarious AI expansion....

Honestly, the only interesting thing that's happened to me in three to four campaigns is that in the latest one, a city in Asia Minor rebelled to the Arverni (or they have sent a couple of stacks somehow).

**Brave Brave Sir Robin** · 10-01-2009, 20:35

I always wondered why the Celto-Germanic spearmen wore their trousers up so high around their chest. They look like the Classical version of Steve Urkel.

**Kevin** · 10-01-2009, 20:48

Originally Posted by Brave Brave Sir Robin

I always wondered why the Celto-Germanic spearmen wore their trousers up so high around their chest. They look like the Classical version of Steve Urkel.

Haha I was thinking the same thing

**Apázlinemjó** · 10-01-2009, 23:05

Originally Posted by IrishHitman

How come my campaigns never have hilarious AI expansion....

Honestly, the only interesting thing that's happened to me in three to four campaigns is that in the latest one, a city in Asia Minor rebelled to the Arverni (or they have sent a couple of stacks somehow).

Ankyra was that city probably, the Galatians' "capital".

**IrishHitman** · 10-02-2009, 14:45

Originally Posted by Apázlinemjó

Ankyra was that city probably, the Galatians' "capital".

Actually, I don't think so.
Nikaea is still independent as well.

I think it might be a Black Sea Province, they seem pretty predisposed to rebellion as it is..

**Grade_A_Beef** · 10-02-2009, 18:26

The Sweboz are very easy to deal with as a Celtic faction. If you don't want to do bridge battles all the time (the Rhine is a very useful border, albeit with a lot of crossings), just built stone walls (barb style) at your border cities and garrison 6-8 bataroas there.

9 times out of ten their men will get slaughtered on the walls by Celtic longswords, with the other 10% being the rare gate breach.

After like 20 years of this I have multiple silver chevroned Batacorii, Milnaht, and Bataroas. Some even have gold chevrons. As a drawback however those border cities aren't getting infastructure anytime soon....

**the man with no name** · 10-03-2009, 05:20

Originally Posted by Grade_A_Beef

The Sweboz are very easy to deal with as a Celtic faction. If you don't want to do bridge battles all the time (the Rhine is a very useful border, albeit with a lot of crossings), just built stone walls (barb style) at your border cities and garrison 6-8 bataroas there.

9 times out of ten their men will get slaughtered on the walls by Celtic longswords, with the other 10% being the rare gate breach.

After like 20 years of this I have multiple silver chevroned Batacorii, Milnaht, and Bataroas. Some even have gold chevrons. As a drawback however those border cities aren't getting infastructure anytime soon....

Use forts.

**Fluvius Camillus** · 10-03-2009, 11:34

Originally Posted by anubis88

Heh, it was one of my favourite campaigns. I did miracles without the use of Force Diplomacy. A protectorate with the romas (by the Arverni) made the at ceasfire with me, and after that we agreed to an alliance once the romans backstabbed them. The Arverni had the most borders with the romans, and once they were in trouble, i helped them out. And the NEVER betrayed me! I was just waiting for this to happen every other turn for the first ten years, but after that i stopped worrying. It was kinda like they were under my protectorate, because i helped them survive, but they did give the Romans a few painfull defeats. My greatest enemys became thus the Sweboz, and once it becam stack after stack i just stopped playing.

Ok that sounds quite fun!

Originally Posted by IrishHitman

How come my campaigns never have hilarious AI expansion....

Honestly, the only interesting thing that's happened to me in three to four campaigns is that in the latest one, a city in Asia Minor rebelled to the Arverni (or they have sent a couple of stacks somehow).

Watch this beauty, insane AI expansion in my ongoing Baktria campaign!

My faithful allies Pahlava and Ptolemaioi all took a bite of the decaying Seleucids. At this point my royal army under the eastern Megas Alexandros finally killed Antiochos II Theos in Zadrakata.Also see Pontos conquering Hellas like a madman. Pahlava and Ptolemaioi kept loyal till I conquered Seleukeia and Babylon, then they betrayed me both, Pahlava attacked me everywhere, what resulted in a very quick removal of the pink problem.

Currently Lusotana kicked the Qarthies out of Iberia, a Punic war going on and KH's + Maks slaughtering Pontos. Protectorates: Aedui protects passive Arverni, KH protects Epirus. Also Seleucids suddenly blitzed Hayasdan. See the AI expansion for yourself, at the pic where I ran in Ptolemaios III Euergetes!

~Fluvius

**Olaf The Great** · 10-04-2009, 23:27

Originally Posted by The Celtic Viking

Whether or not the Carnutes Cingetos do more for the Aedui than the Arjos do for the Arverni is not so important a question to me anyway. Actually, they're completely irrelevant to why I prefer Arverni; I do that because they have the strength and the wealth to rule Gaul, while the Aedui are weaklings who stopped the Belgae and Germanic invaders like the house of straw stopped the big, bad wolf. The Aedui do not deserve to rule, they cannot rule, so it's perfectly right and correct for the Arverni to take the rule from them.

I just changed my opinion on this matter.

I even somehow changed my opinion on the faction colors, I now prefer Arverni.

WTH how did you do that?

**Vilkku92** · 10-05-2009, 18:28

I think I prefer Arverni. They have better colour and most of their units look better (though the aedui Teceitos are cooler). Their initial army also does'nt have to worry about sending Lugoae against Bataroas.

Besides, Aedui are weaklings who does'nt deserve to rule the Gaul. They should be burned! (I was first thinking about expelling them to Rome, but that would have been too cruel.)