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    Quote Originally Posted by Louis VI the Fat View Post
    I resent the 'socialism'.
    There are only four main systems (Divided by quadrant): Socialism, Libertarialism, Conservadorism and Authoritarism.

    SOCIALISM

    Socialism is a political system that blends Non-Conformance and Interdependence:

    1. Children are born good and should be nurtured to become productive members of society.
    2. Collective initiatives are more effective than individual ones.


    Socialism believes society should be organised along social lines for the benefit of all, rather than for what is perceived as the profit of a few [Interdependence]. Its key ideas are opposition to capitalism, and a belief in equality, both political and economic [Non-Conformance].

    Socialism includes these variations:

    1. Economic Socialism
    2. Moral Socialism
    3. Moderate Socialism
    4. Extreme Socialism

    The variation you're in is Economic Socialism.

    ECONOMIC SOCIALISM

    Economic Socialism is the variation of Socialism that emphasizes Interdependence over Non-Conformance.

    People in this category will tend to have have stronger opinions about expanding collective initiatives (social programs, industry regulation...) than about flexing the moral order (gay rights, ecology, drug legalization,...).

    You're on the border between International Socialism and Social-Democratism, but since you resent "Socialism", I'd bet you are a Social Democrat.



    EDIT: Yes, Sasaki is correct. The hints are vital to making a decision because otherwise all options are a bit ambiguous.
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    Your scored 3 on Moral Order and -5.5 on Moral Rules.

    The following categories best match your score (multiple responses are possible):

    1. System: Conservatism (yes)
    2. Ideology: Conservative NeoLiberalism (?, I view myself as a libertarian conservative)
    3. Party: Republican Party (well, they're such idiots, but if they practiced what they preached...)
    4. Presidents: Ronald Reagan (out of the choices in this poll, yes. Out of all Presidents, Jefferson)
    5. 04' Election: George W. Bush (yes)
    6. 08' Election: John McCain (yes)
    I had a lot of problems with the test until I clicked the "show hints" button. Basically you should completely ignore the original option and go by the blue text.
    That was quite useful, thanks.

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    You scored -0.5 on moral order and 0 on moral rules.
    The following categories best match your score (multiple responses are possible):

    1. System: Liberalism, Socialism
    2. Ideology: Capital Democratism, Social Democratism
    3. Party: Democratic Party
    4. Presidents: Jimmy Carter
    5. 04' Election: John Kerry
    6. 08' Election: Barrack Obama



    Of the 562,128 respondents (10,071 on Facebook):

    1. 9% are close to you.
    2. 26% are more conservative.
    3. 23% are more liberal.
    4. 31% are more socialist.
    5. 9% are more authoritarian.
    Well, I guess that makes me the most centrist person thus far.
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    YOUR SCORE

    Your scored -1.5 on Moral Order and -3.5 on Moral Rules.

    The following categories best match your score (multiple responses are possible):

    1. System: Liberalism
    2. Ideology: Capital Democratism
    3. Party: Democratic Party
    4. Presidents: Bill Clinton
    5. 04' Election: John Kerry
    6. 08' Election: John McCain



    Of the 562,134 respondents (10,071 on Facebook):

    1. 3% are close to you.
    2. 17% are more conservative.
    3. 7% are more liberal.
    4. 43% are more socialist.
    5. 31% are more authoritarian.
    Looks about right to me, apart from where my votes went. Another guy toward the middle.

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    Your scored -2.5 on Moral Order and -2 on Moral Rules.

    The following categories best match your score (multiple responses are possible):

    1. System: Liberalism
    2. Ideology: Capital Democratism
    3. Party: Democratic Party
    4. Presidents: Lyndon B. Johnson
    5. 04' Election: John Kerry
    6. 08' Election: Barrack Obama
    I didn't even notice I was a liberal :O

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    Quote Originally Posted by Crazed Rabbit View Post
    That was quite useful, thanks.

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    CR, there is no such thing as Libertarian Conservative

    Here are the Ideologies:

    BLARGH!

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    YOUR SCORE

    Your scored -3.5 on Moral Order and 0 on Moral Rules.

    The following categories best match your score (multiple responses are possible):

    1. System: Liberalism, Socialism
    2. Ideology: Capital Democratism, Social Democratism
    3. Party: Democratic Party
    4. Presidents: John F Kennedy
    5. 04' Election: John Kerry
    6. 08' Election: Barrack Obama

    I don't think I'd call myself a socialist but liberal sounds okay.
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    Bah, I am stuck in the corner, silly test.
    Spoiler Alert, click show to read: 

    BESKAR'S SCORE

    Your scored -8 on Moral Order and 7.5 on Moral Rules.

    The following categories best match your score (multiple responses are possible):

    1. System: Socialism
    2. Ideology: Libertarian Socialism
    3. Party: No match.
    4. Presidents: Jimmy Carter
    5. 04' Election: David Cobb
    6. 08' Election: Dennis Kucinich



    Of the 562,146 respondents (10,071 on Facebook):

    1. 1% are close to you.
    2. 99% are more conservative.
    3. 0% are more liberal.
    4. 0% are more socialist.
    5. 0% are more authoritarian.


    Why do I always come out as an extremists just for holding common sense views.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Beskar View Post
    Why do I always come out as an extremists just for holding common sense views.
    Nazi's thought it was common sense to wipe out obviously common sensed inferior races. Are you saying they are wrong???

    EMFM, yeah I meant it in the compass. But yes, I had no idea what Conservative Libertarian was as well. It's like someone saying they are Commie-Nazis.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jolt View Post
    EMFM, yeah I meant it in the compass. But yes, I had no idea what Conservative Libertarian was as well. It's like someone saying they are Commie-Nazis.
    I disagree, strongly. Conservative libertarians or libertarian conservatives (they are different, however slightly) see both ideologies as almost natural combinations or extensions of the other. Small government, the free market, free speech, and etcetera.

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    YOUR SCORE

    Your scored 1.5 on Moral Order and -6.5 on Moral Rules.

    The following categories best match your score (multiple responses are possible):

    1. System: Conservatism
    2. Ideology: Conservative NeoLiberalism
    3. Party: Republican Party
    4. Presidents: Ronald Reagan
    5. 04' Election: George W. Bush
    6. 08' Election: Ron Paul No.



    Of the 562,185 respondents (10,075 on Facebook):

    1. 3% are close to you.
    2. 2% are more conservative.
    3. 3% are more liberal.
    4. 75% are more socialist.
    5. 19% are more authoritarian.
    All in all, my results seem to be in line with all the other compass tests.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jolt View Post
    CR, there is no such thing as Libertarian Conservative
    Correct, there is no such thi-

    Well, what do you know, this article must be brand new then, since nobody seems to have heard about it. Seems that CR and myself are on the cutting edge of political thought.

    EDIT: Ah, I see what you mean, there isn't any libertarian conservatism on that chart. Gotcha.

    Quote Originally Posted by Beskar
    Why do I always come out as an extremists just for holding common sense views.
    All of our views are "common sense" - to ourselves.
    Last edited by Evil_Maniac From Mars; 09-13-2009 at 03:29.

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    I did it with the blue hints on. The compass now describes me as some sort of communist environment nazi. *kicks compass*
    Oh well. Lemur was outed as a crypto-Republican. :hammer:

    Quote Originally Posted by Jolt View Post
    People in this category will tend to have have stronger opinions about expanding collective initiatives (social programs, industry regulation...) than about flexing the moral order (gay rights, ecology, drug legalization,...).
    When put like that, it sums me up pretty well.

    You're on the border between International Socialism and Social-Democratism, but since you resent "Socialism", I'd bet you are a Social Democrat.
    I'm not a socialist of any sort. I am centrist-right. MoDem to be exact. I think I'd be pretty mainstream Democrat in the US, neither the looney left nor tempted much to occasionaly swing to the GOP, so I was surprised the test twice couldn't link me with a party (I presume the test is American).
    Sarkozy, Obama and Barroso suit me just fine - all three are pretty right wing without any trace of
    (hyphenated) socialism.
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    From what I read from you Loius, you are pretty left-wing, not right-wing. Post your answers we have a clearer look?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Louis VI the Fat View Post
    I'm not a socialist of any sort. I am centrist-right. MoDem to be exact. I think I'd be pretty mainstream Democrat in the US, neither the looney left nor tempted much to occasionaly swing to the GOP, so I was surprised the test twice couldn't link me with a party (I presume the test is American).
    -3.5 on moral order and 1.5 moral rules...

    I'll join you in the MoDem, Loulou. Shame on me.


    Looks like the test is definitely not relevant for French, since I'm much, much more on the left in real life.


    Quote Originally Posted by Louis VI the Fat View Post
    Sarkozy, Obama and Barroso suit me just fine - all three are pretty right wing without any trace of
    (hyphenated) socialism.
    B...b....Barroso! Are you nuts?
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    Vast majority of the partisan people in the world are like it, and most adults, if they support a certain party that is, will do the same. Many of us, and maybe even me, will turn out that way too.
    My mother watches FOX and CNN and she reads the Wall Street Journal . The woman just does not like John and never has. I didn't like Ron Paul either. I thought the test was fine until it tried to guess what president you voted for. The simple fact is that while the test was pretty good, political dilemmas are just not one black and white like some people think (including many young people like myself). Some questions were very ambiguious like the last question on law enforcement.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Centurion1 View Post
    My mother watches FOX and CNN and she reads the Wall Street Journal .
    That is splendid . Although I would not watch the first two. In fact, I would not watch any news generally, unless it was the News Hour with Jim Lehrer (PBS). Reading news on the Net is safer.

    The manner in which you worded your previous post caused me to assume your mother was one of those staunch partisans. And to some degree, this may be true, as I do not consider it wise to stick to one single party for one's entirely life in a nation such as America, where politics tend to focus on individuals more than in an other nation - in most world states people vote stolidly by party, and so did the Americans some time ago. Not so much today, a time where roughly 20% staunch Republicans and staunch 20% Democrats battle for the 60% undecided (research this if you wish, the 20% on each side is a true fact).
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