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**Tellos Athenaios** · 09-15-2009, 22:33

It depends on who are in the hands of AI...

**HunGeneral** · 09-15-2009, 22:41

I didn't vote because:

Originally Posted by Tellos Athenaios

It depends on who are in the hands of AI...

Yes pluss who of them are standing on a hill, are they in open terain or in wooded area - are we talking about simple toxotai or any special variant (Kretikoi, syrians, etc. etc.)....

**A Terribly Harmful Name** · 09-15-2009, 22:48

The Toxotai are simple, both are humans, terrain conditions can be set and discussed at will.

**mountaingoat** · 09-15-2009, 22:55

arrows just stop mid flight and hit the ground before the drap.

**A Very Super Market** · 09-15-2009, 23:32

Drapanai. Western Archers simply do not win battles.

**Azathoth** · 09-15-2009, 23:43

Archers. As soon as the Drapanai close with them, the final volley will shatter their morale and they will rout. I'm assuming the AI is controlling the Drapanai and that this is taking place in the Flat Plain map or whatever it's called.

**DaciaJC** · 09-16-2009, 00:04

Drapanai have a morale of 15. With so many men on the battlefield, it is unlikely that they will rout before having their unit size reduced to ~20 or less (normal unit sizes).

If this was a human vs. human match-up, I would predict that the Toxotai would win. It would be too easy to pull back all of the archers and set them up so as to form a crossfire, especially if the Toxotai have the height advantage.

In a human vs. AI battle however, the Drapanai can easily win.

**A Very Super Market** · 09-16-2009, 05:00

Originally Posted by A Very Super Market

Drapanai. Western Archers simply do not win battles.

Hi all. For all the armour a bare chest provides, it proves no match for an arrow. However, the arrow must actually manage to hit their rippling muscles to have an effect.

**antisocialmunky** · 09-16-2009, 05:07

Originally Posted by A Very Super Market

Hi all. For all the armour a bare chest provides, it proves no match for an arrow. However, the arrow must actually manage to hit their rippling muscles to have an effect.

Exactly if you see above.

**DaciaJC** · 09-15-2009, 22:54

Originally Posted by HunGeneral

Yes pluss who of them are standing on a hill, are they in open terain or in wooded area - are we talking about simple toxotai or any special variant (Kretikoi, syrians, etc. etc.)....

Variant wouldn't matter much in this case, except for range. Any archer unit can mow down Drapanai...

Depends on the range. If you open up a custom battle and start off both armies in their default positions, the Toxotai would wipe out the Drapanai before they closed the distance even halfway. If, however, the Drapanai were able to charge into the Toxotai after just two or three volleys, victory would easily be theirs.

I suppose a test could be made with 3 AI players and a human player. This would split the field into four quadrants, with the main contenders (the Drapanai and Toxotai) hopefully mirroring each others' position and you with one unit across from an AI player with one unit.