America - The Freest Country?

[SwordsMaster]

It isn't a good idea to confuse anarchy and liberty.

Don't confuse freedom with independence either. A 17th century frenchman had less freedom but more independence than a 21st century London City financier.

It's a balancing act. A fun fact, the European country with most legislation text is actually Spain. It is also the european country where less legislation is enforced as a percentage of the total. As usual, quality and quantity do not go hand in hand.

I would have a lot more respect for a government which enforced a very small amount of legislation rigidly and without exception than Spain.

Personal freedoms-wise, well, we're getting less and less. In that sense Somalia probably is the freeest place on the planet.

[LittleGrizzly]

ohh forgot about that...

Well the context of the discussion seemed to be focused on how much our goverments interfere with our lives... so Somalia would obviously win in that regard...

If you are talking about freedom to live an enjoyable life with little goverment interference we would have to look at things such as crime figures as well, maybe even health as well (UHC for the win )

[HoreTore]

Well the context of the discussion seemed to be focused on how much our goverments interfere with our lives... so Somalia would obviously win in that regard...

Uhm..... The Somalian warlords don't interfere with the lives of their underlings?

[SwordsMaster]

Uhm..... The Somalian warlords don't interfere with the lives of their underlings?

Not particularly. If you have a gun you can try and establish your own territory. To be honest, I don't even know what they're fighting for up there anymore. I don't think they know either.

[LittleGrizzly]

Uhm..... The Somalian warlords don't interfere with the lives of their underlings?

True I guess, I mean aslong as you don't bother them (or you aren't unwillingly of some use to them) your pretty free to do what you want

Im guessing the laws would be something like don't harm me or my guys or steal from me or my guys, outside of involuntary recruitment (i would think they volunteer being penniless anyway) maybe forced seizure of property as well but again our countrys take property too (admittedly they usually compensate people for it)

Although ill admit I don't know much of the Somalian warlords domestic policys...

[HoreTore]

I mean aslong as you don't bother them (or you aren't unwillingly of some use to them) your pretty free to do what you want

Im guessing the laws would be something like don't harm me or my guys or steal from me or my guys, outside of involuntary recruitment (i would think they volunteer being penniless anyway) maybe forced seizure of property as well but again our countrys take property too (admittedly they usually compensate people for it)

Although ill admit I don't know much of the Somalian warlords domestic policys...

No, that's wrong. the various warlords, militas etc are best viewed as different governments fighting each other. And as for the laws? It's martial law.

[naut]

Hmm, Andorra springs to mind.

[Husar]

No, that's wrong. the various warlords, militas etc are best viewed as different governments fighting each other. And as for the laws? It's martial law.

Are they accepted as national governments by the UN/other countries? Concerning laws, there is also marital law in which a man becomes slave to a woman, or so I read constantly on this here internet, it applies to many western countries.

Pure freedom is hardly reachable, you'd have to grow wings and gills and be able to survive in space to get that(as it is we're slaves to our technical machines once we go there ) and that's just for freedom of movement, one of the many areas of freedom.