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    Quote Originally Posted by Brenus View Post
    No, it just means we habor less hate then you. Evidence: Who started both WWs? Germany. Who ended both WWs? AMERICA. “

    This doesn’t speak well for your system of education.
    Read: Sarajevo, Gavrilo Princip, about WW1.
    About the end, well, read all the campaign, and where exactly and when, the US forces were engaged...

    About WW2 the Germans did started it. But just for fun have a look of where the Red Army was in June 1944, and examine the D-Day in Normandy with the Russian massive offensive at the same period. You will find it interesting.
    Princip? Sounds like a pansy Frenchman. Figures, they always need us to clean up there messes.

    The 20th century was about two things. America defending the rest of the wrold from Germany and America defending the rest of the wrold from the USSR.

    Boom.
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    Princip? Sounds like a pansy Frenchman. Figures, they always need us to clean up there messes.

    The 20th century was about two things. America defending the rest of the wrold from Germany and America defending the rest of the wrold from the USSR.

    Boom.
    Agreed. And the 21st century will be about two things as well, America defending the rest of the world from Iraq, and America defending the rest of the world from Iran.

    The first one is almost finished

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sasaki Kojiro View Post
    Agreed. And the 21st century will be about two things as well, America defending the rest of the world from Iraq, and America defending the rest of the world from Iran.

    The first one is almost finished
    We might actually have time to relax this century! lol

    /AMERICAFIVE (like a high five BUT AWESOME)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Strike For The South View Post
    We might actually have time to relax this century! lol

    /AMERICAFIVE (like a high five BUT AWESOME)
    So to take a parallel of the early years of the 20 century it was about Britain defending the world and the rest of the century from Iraq in the Arab Revolt of 1920 and the Anglo Invasion of Iran to counter the Russian invasion of 1911.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Strikey
    The 20th century was about two things. America defending the rest of the wrold from Germany and America defending the rest of the world from the USSR.

    Boom.
    ....and the 19th century was about Texas twice starting and losing a war with Mexico, and twice being rescued by Yanks.

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    Typical of you Frenchmen. We save you and yall are ungreatful. Whatever, go eat your snails and make love to women whom don't shave.”
    I like when people starts to use this kind of things.
    They have nothing else to say…
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    Quote Originally Posted by Brenus View Post
    Typical of you Frenchmen. We save you and yall are ungreatful. Whatever, go eat your snails and make love to women whom don't shave.”
    I like when people starts to use this kind of things.
    They have nothing else to say…
    You've remained far to civil for this debate. In fact the lot of you have. The backroom just isn't the rough and tumble place it used to be

    In all honesty I'm a francophile of the highest order and would like nothing more than to stay in Paris for an extended period of time.

    I consider Italy and France to be the hieght of food, culture, and women. If Texas wasn't in America I'd apply for citzenship in a heartbeat

    Quote Originally Posted by Louis VI the Fat, in more ways than 1 (If you know what I mean!) View Post
    ....and the 19th century was about Texas twice starting and losing a war with Mexico, and twice being rescued by Yanks.

    2006 called, they want there joke back
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    I am tired and sick of war. Its glory is all moonshine. It is only those who have neither fired a shot nor heard the shrieks and groans of the wounded who cry aloud for blood, for vengeance, for desolation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Strike For The South View Post
    I consider Italy and France to be the pinnacle of food, culture, and women.
    Why, thank you! That is very kind and most flattering.

    However, let's not get caried away. Your post, I'm afraid, is a bit telling of your lack of foreign travel, and of too much glitzy foreign propaganda about dazzling Europe by nationalist internet posters. Reality, unfortunately, is rather less glamorous than you may think: there isn't altogether all that much great food, culture and women in Italy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Louis VI the Fat View Post
    there isn't altogether all that much great food, culture and women in Italy.
    Nonsense! The food and culture was great!




    But the women there should learn english, or heck, just any second language. How are we supposed to communicate with them? Pull our pants down and hope they take the hint?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Louis VI the Fat View Post
    Why, thank you! That is very kind and most flattering.

    However, let's not get caried away. Your post, I'm afraid, is a bit telling of your lack of foreign travel, and of too much glitzy foreign propaganda about dazzling Europe by nationalist internet posters. Reality, unfortunately, is rather less glamorous than you may think: there isn't altogether all that much great food, culture and women in Italy.
    I dunno man I stayed in Sorrento for a wedding two weeks ago up in Positanau or is it down?

    If having no food was the price for the weather thats fine with me.

    Sure as a visitor we just talked slow and loudly anyway and complained it was all foreign food anyway.


    I think again my solution from the old evil empire works again talk slow and loudly and walk around very conspicously in the noon day sunBut the women there should learn english, or heck, just any second language. How are we supposed to communicate with them? Pull our pants down and hope they take the hint?
    Talking slow and loudly probaly solve that one too
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    Princip? Sounds like a pansy Frenchman. Figures, they always need us to clean up there messes.
    The 20th century was about two things. America defending the rest of the wrold from Germany and America defending the rest of the wrold from the USSR.
    Boom.

    I wish our class of History would have been as simple…
    Mine said WW1 USA try to stay out at all cost but have no choice because attack of boat and Zimmerman telegram, WW2 USA try to stay out at all cost but have no choice because attack of Pearl Harbour.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Brenus View Post
    Princip? Sounds like a pansy Frenchman. Figures, they always need us to clean up there messes.
    The 20th century was about two things. America defending the rest of the wrold from Germany and America defending the rest of the wrold from the USSR.
    Boom.

    I wish our class of History would have been as simple…
    Mine said WW1 USA try to stay out at all cost but have no choice because attack of boat and Zimmerman telegram, WW2 USA try to stay out at all cost but have no choice because attack of Pearl Harbour.
    The sinking of the Lusitania among other things off Ireland was a boon to Britain in its attempt to get US in the war.
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    "The sinking of the Lusitania among other things off Ireland was a boon to Britain in its attempt to get US in the war". Yeap. It was needed because the USA were so keen to rescue the world...
    Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities. Voltaire.

    "I've been in few famous last stands, lad, and they're butcher shops. That's what Blouse's leading you into, mark my words. What'll you lot do then? We've had a few scuffles, but that's not war. Think you'll be man enough to stand, when the metal meets the meat?"
    "You did, sarge", said Polly." You said you were in few last stands."
    "Yeah, lad. But I was holding the metal"
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    Quote Originally Posted by Brenus View Post
    "The sinking of the Lusitania among other things off Ireland was a boon to Britain in its attempt to get US in the war". Yeap. It was needed because the USA were so keen to rescue the world...
    For some reason the image of Scrappy Doo came into my head there
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    My dear Texan, WW1 was started by a Serbian nationalist who obviously thought murder would solve his problems. You can attest some fault to the Austrian royals who thought the murder of one would justify the murder of many but then you still haven't arrived at Germany and all the other bloodhounds who eagerly marched to the front(or sent others) to show the other nations who's boss.
    Nationalism lead to this, it's just as dangerous in the US as it is in Europe and while Iraq arguably should have been freed from Saddam, you went in under a wrong pretext(the nonexistant WMDs) and could have already done the job in 1991 but back then it somehow didn't suit you. Oh yeah, you also started the war the second time around, how you saved anyone from those nonexistant WMDs is a mystery to me. Yeah look, if you were out to save the world then why didn't you dismantle the Iraqi regime when they killed several thousand Kurds or when they killed the Kuwaitis?

    And as has been said, the US tried to stay out of WW2 as long as they could, you didn't even prepare for a war, your airforce was almost in shambles when it began.
    America usually saves it's own interests, something nationalistic people expect every country to do of course and it does actually give some good results sometimes but you won't get a blanket check as saviour of the world from me anytime soon, last time a german gave a blanket check to someone we got drawn into WW1.


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    Typical of you Frenchmen. We save you and yall are ungreatful. Whatever, go eat your snails and make love to women whom don't shave.
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    I am tired and sick of war. Its glory is all moonshine. It is only those who have neither fired a shot nor heard the shrieks and groans of the wounded who cry aloud for blood, for vengeance, for desolation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Strike For The South View Post
    Typical of you Frenchmen. We save you and yall are ungreatful. Whatever, go eat your snails and make love to women whom don't shave.

    For you Strike
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    Quote Originally Posted by gaelic cowboy View Post
    That Englishman speaks truth.

    It is really of no use to discuss what/who started world war one, even now it's unclear there are sooooooooooooooooo many theories.
    Germany ran out of moustache gel and got angry France still had some.
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    There, but for the grace of God, goes John Bradford

    My aim, then, was to whip the rebels, to humble their pride, to follow them to their inmost recesses, and make them fear and dread us. Fear is the beginning of wisdom.

    I am tired and sick of war. Its glory is all moonshine. It is only those who have neither fired a shot nor heard the shrieks and groans of the wounded who cry aloud for blood, for vengeance, for desolation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Husar View Post
    America usually saves it's own interests, something nationalistic people expect every country to do of course and it does actually give some good results sometimes but you won't get a blanket check as saviour of the world from me anytime soon, last time a german gave a blanket check to someone we got drawn into WW1.
    Does anyone remember how round the time Dubya was going for election and after he got elected reams of newspaper print were written about how America was about to retreat into one of its period of isolationism.

    Bush even talked of reevaluating overseas commitments I remember reading a piece over here about how even NATO was at stake even.

    Gas how events turned out he ended up more interventionist than Clinton who he castigated as been an interventionist
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    It is really of no use to discuss what/who started world war one, even now it's unclear there are sooooooooooooooooo many theories.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Husar View Post
    America EverynationTM usually saves it's own interests, something nationalistic people expect every country to do of course....


    Quote Originally Posted by Fragony View Post
    It is really of no use to discuss what/who started world war one, even now it's unclear there are sooooooooooooooooo many theories.
    I thought it had been generally agreed that the Illuminati started both and all wars to hide the Holy Grail from the Freemasons.

    (or have I been channelling Dan Brown again? )
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    And as has been said, the US tried to stay out of WW2 as long as they could, you didn't even prepare for a war, your airforce was almost in shambles when it began.
    This is wrong though. I've played Axis and Allies a few times, the US starts with a fair number of planes.

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    This is wrong though. I've played Axis and Allies a few times, the US starts with a fair number of planes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sasaki Kojiro View Post
    This is wrong though. I've played Axis and Allies a few times, the US starts with a fair number of planes.
    I've read a rather extensive book about how airplanes were scarce, mostly outdated and not working, especially in the pacific theatre when the war started.

    And Banquo, I tried to say that in the second part of the sentence about the nationalists, I do however think that here in the EU we do at least try to further our common interests. It's not really always working yet and especially the english would rather conquer all of europe than show some team spirit and sportsmanship but I hope we'll get there eventually.


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    But the women there should learn english, or heck, just any second language. How are we supposed to communicate with them? Pull our pants down and hope they take the hint?


    In their defense, the younger generation of italians, specially in urban areas, speak good english.

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