Eastern EB?

[Kevin]

I know this might be the wrong place to put this, but I've found the EB people to more historically intelligent about these things. I've played EB for a while now and I love the historical accuracy. Hey, I admit I've learned a few things along the way . I've always wondered what happened on the eastern side of the world (such as China, Japan, and their "barbarians") while Rome was conquering all of the known Western world.

What I'm asking is; Is there any mods that take place during EB's era but shows the progression of the Eastern countries?

[Ca Putt]

I know It's not what you're acutally looking for, BUT it certainly is the answer to your question

have you checked the minimod subforum and found the Asia ton barbarorum thread? they are not finished yet but what they have looks great sofar, sadly It only features some "barbarians of the chinese" rather than the chinese or other east asian cultures.

[A Very Super Market]

Qin Shi Huang unified China at 221 BC, and the Han dynasty spent the years after 206 consolidating their position within the natural barriers, trying to control the Xiongnu (Leading directly to the Yuezhi incursion), and not doing much about anything else.

Japan itself was a "barbarian" faction. It was slowly getting a few Korean and Chinese poppin over the sea, but it was very much tribal.

Speaking of Korea, it was pestered by the Han, but left to their own devices on the Southern part of the peninsula.

A TW game about the Far East would be a bit boring. China would be the obvious scrappy, and would quickly overrun everyone, unless accuracy was dumped for gameplay and it was divided into colour-coded houses. And a purple senate.

[Azathoth]

Rebellions.

[Kevin]

A TW game about the Far East would be a bit boring. China would be the obvious scrappy, and would quickly overrun everyone, unless accuracy was dumped for gameplay and it was divided into colour-coded houses. And a purple senate.

Isn't Rome the "obvious scrappy" in Rome: Total War and in EB? Imagine playing as the Japanese. It would be like the Gauls overcoming the Romans in both EB and RTW.

Rebellions.

I don't know what you're talking about

[A Very Super Market]

Well, I suppose if you started during the Warring States period, there could be some decent action without swallowing up the entire map. A bit repetitive fighting essentially the same factions though.

[Kevin]

That would be like saying all the barbarians in EB are essentially the same.

[Intranetusa]

Well, I suppose if you started during the Warring States period, there could be some decent action without swallowing up the entire map. A bit repetitive fighting essentially the same factions though.

Well you can't really say they are the same factions considering historically each of the states had their own language, writing system, currency, etc...and they each had different styles of fighting, different armors, weapons, etc.

Err, it would be more similar to the Aedui and Arverni. China had no real "other" culture to draw ideas from. The Northern ones never did use much nomad technology, and the only major development in warfare was the adoption of cavalry. But even then, chariots were still the norm.

You can always include the many kingdoms in what is now known as Southern China, and many nomadic factions in what is now known as Northern China, and plenty o Greek/Persian/Indian factions to the west.

and I believe there was a mod in development for the Warring States period (of China)

And yes, now that I think of it, you are right: for the longest time Korea is the only civilized state in direct contact with the Chinese, although I'm not sure how 'civilized' they were back then ;)

I'm not sure if "Korean" identity existed in that time period...

Then please enlighten me. I'm working from guesswork based solely off of China's more homogeneous ethnic background.

Ummm, even today China is far from homogeneous...

You have disgruntled minorities living in the west and south west, and your integrated minorities in Inner Mongolia/Manchuria/Sichuan/Yunan/much of the southern regions/etc. And they've been able to retain their distinctive culture...

Their government lists 55 minority groups (about 150-200 million people)...but the real figure is probably much higher.

Remember that "China" is roughly the size of the entire continent of Europe...and the modern boundaries and conception of "China" is the result of thousands of years of conquest and integration of vastly different people.

(ie. Thai, Cambodians, Hmong, Viet, and Austronesian people all had kingdoms in Southern China before being integrated into various Chinese Dynasties)